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Catal Hoyuk was never seen as a self contained civilisation of any kind please link to a source that claims this. You are guilty of what you just accused academics of
civ·i·li·za·tion –noun.
1.an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached.
2.those people or nations that have reached such a state.
3.any type of culture, society, etc., of a specific place, time, or group.
4.the act or process of civilizing or being civilized.
5.cultural refinement; refinement of thought and cultural appreciation.
6.cities or populated areas in general, as opposed to unpopulated or wilderness areas.
7.modern comforts and conveniences, as made possible by science and technology.
they are on the list because you posted information from that source as I already explained. Go back and read my earlier post its very clear why i mentioned them
well I don't believe you sorry. You linked to world mysteries on this post and punlished an extract. that is not proper research.
the fact is that the indian vimana text you are talking about was not an ancient one it was channeled
The Vymanika Shastra was first committed to writing between 1918 and 1923,
a dodgy website (world mysteries)
the Romans were capable of moving stones that weighed up to 1000 tonnes with no technology
the thunder stone is officially the largest stone ever moved by man
Wow. I guess you didn't study Plato in school. In the two dialogues where Atlantis is discussed, it's to expand on his ideas as presented in The Republic...
Originally posted by cormac mac airt
Hi RD,
It is my understanding that many of the crystal skulls have been debunked as 19th century forgeries as evidence of a jewelers drilling eguipment had been found on them. The discovery of the main one, sometimes called the Skull of Doom, is undocumented by its alleged founder and is of Brazilian Quartz, not found in Mayan areas.
If the pyramids were built as is believed by science, then it is possible that electricity played a part. However, if the pyramids were created level by level using a ramp then the insides would have been opened to the outside until the last courses of the top were added. Lighting from the inside would have been unnecessary.
good discussion about why Michael Cremo isn't an expert on anything here
Originally posted by kerkinana walsky
Originally posted by rikriley
My discovery of Lumeria was purely by accident I had been scanning the planet Mars for thousands of hours of the many satellite and ground zero missions. Some how I knew I was picking up on a digital code that was being programed into my brain to aid me in seeing in 3D verses 2D or 1D. The camouflaged or stealthed images on Mars that I was able to pick up on and see from photos were I believe due to the tatooed grid and geometric hidden patterns on Mars I was programed and have learned to see.
yeah thats cool I believe you
I channeled some information that the planet earth is actually a giant marshmallow but the new world order conspiring with two pan dimensional mice have hidden its real geology by using stealth techniques and origami and we're whats left of invaders from the planet zarquon.
of course I can't prove this until I have launched some expeditions back to zarquon to get the evidence
can anyone help me because I didn't channel the information of Zarquons actual location
all i know is that its out there somewhere
along with the truth
[edit on 14-11-2007 by kerkinana walsky]
Originally posted by Tenebrous
jakyll
In your latest post, that obolisk you have lying on its side would truly have been the largest in the world, but it cracked while it was still be carved out, hence it was never quite finsihed and still lies in the quarry, its a different angle but im pretty sure its that one, and thats why it isnt the largest ever moved, because it was never moved.
At the southern entrance of Baalbeck is a quarry where the stones used in the temples were cut. A huge block, considered the largest hewn stone in the world, still sits where it was cut almost 2,000 years ago. Called the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman", it is 21.5m x 4.8m x 4.2meters in size and weighs an estimated 1,000 tons.
The Stone of the South (Hadjar el Gouble) in Baalbek is measured at 21.5 m x 4.8 x 4.2 m, putting its mass somewhere between 900 and 1100 tonnes. Unlike the unfinished obelisk, it was taken out of its quarry, but still sits on an angle not far from the site of its extraction. Once again, this is smaller than the initial mass of the Thunder Stone.
It is sometimes claimed that the Thunder Stone is the "largest stone ever moved by man." This stone was not only tremendously large, but was also effectively moved 6 km (4 miles) overland to the Gulf of Finland by manpower alone; no animals or machines were used. It was then transported by boat up the Neva, and subsequently to its current site. Due to the large size of the rock, the easiest way to measure its mass is to calculate it. Its dimensions before being cut, according to the fall 1882 edition of La Nature were 7 x 14 x 9 m. Based on the density of granite, its mass was determined to be around 1500 tonnes.[7] Falconet had some of this cut away to change the rock to its current wave-like shape, leaving the finished, stylized pedestal weighing slightly less. This still leaves it the largest when compared to other large, sculpted stones:
The Transportation of the Thunder-stone in the Presence of Catherine II. Engraving by I.F.Schley of the drawing by Yury Felten. 1770.
Originally posted by Raoul Duke
What about the great pyramid? How were the stones that are 100 tons, 200 tons, moved? Spiritual or technological means IMO are the most likely scenarios.
In your latest post, that obolisk you have lying on its side would truly have been the largest in the world, but it cracked while it was still be carved out, hence it was never quite finsihed and still lies in the quarry, its a different angle but im pretty sure its that one, and thats why it isnt the largest ever moved, because it was never moved.
Originally posted by cormac mac airt
Based on the information provided below, which is based on findings in archaeology, paleontology, ancient population studies, genetics and many other fields, can anyone tell me where these "LOST AND HIGHLY ADVANCED CIVILIZATIONS" many espouse fit in at. Keeping in mind that if it is much more than c.220,000 years ago then they weren't HOMO SAPIENS. The closest "ancestors" were Homo Habilis and Homo Erectus.
Originally posted by rikriley
There are plenty of books on the locations of the region I call Lumeria. After the expeditions I will let you know what books to read.
Originally posted by cormac mac airt
It is my understanding that many of the crystal skulls have been debunked as 19th century forgeries as evidence of a jewelers drilling eguipment had been found on them. The discovery of the main one, sometimes called the Skull of Doom, is undocumented by its alleged founder and is of Brazilian Quartz, not found in Mayan areas.