reply to post by Tenebrous
I believe however, that at no time previous then what we know has a civilisation sprung up,and simply disapeared.
I guess it depends what you mean by disappered.Those listed below left structures behind,but the people themselves vanished in ways we don't know
yet.Catal Huyuk and the Hittite people seemed to appear out of nowhere and soon vanished back there.
The people who made the Nazca lines.
The ancient Tibetans.(see link)
The people of Catal Huyuk.
It should also be remembered that,just because evidence of these people has been rediscovered,it doesn't mean every lost civilization will leave
behind similar ruins every time!
Nature can be very good at destroying all trace of such people!
As can war!
there is no cover-up no attempt to hide them, every archeologist wants to be the first, a discovery like the ones you guys want, of a compeltly new
civilisation that re-writes everything we know about human history WOULD BE THE GREATEST SINGLE DISCOVERY IN THE HISTORY OF ARCHEAOLOGY (yes i cant
spell tonight, im trying to write this quick i need to go to bed) AND THE MAN WHO DISCOVERED IT WOULD DO EVERYTHING BUT COVER IT UP.
You will be amazed at what gets hidden away by museums and how discoveries that can change history can lead to the ruin of the discoverer.
Some times this happens because people who have become an authority on a subject have a reputation,status and money and blind faith and they don't
want someone rocking the boat.Seems silly,but its true.
Gaston Maspero discovered and translated the Pyramid Texts.Auguste Mariette the leading authority on Egtpt at that time,declared that all pyramids
were 'mute' they did not contain writings because that would mean they were more than just tombs.He didn't live to see the full discovery of
The problems started with James Henry Breasted,a man dubbed 'the real founder of Egyptology in the New World.'
He past judgement on the Texts and declared that they had nothing to do with the 'stellar cult' they were nothing more than a 'solar cult'.This
opinion damned the Texts and they were reduced to the status of silly surperstitous nonsence and what work Maspero did on them was ignored.
That opinion was held until fairly rescent times when historians 'dared' to go against J.H.Breasted and proved that the Pyramid Texts were so much
than 'just another solar cult.'
Dr. Michelle Lescot of the Natural History Museum (Paris) in the late 1970's discovered in the mummie of Rameses 2nd traces of coc aine and
tabacco.Things that could have only come from the Americas! Thinking she was wrong she did test after test and they all came back with the same
results.So she anounced her findings to the world.And what happened?
The academics tore her to pieces,it didn't matter that she was highly respected,such a thing was not possible.....and then,16 years later Dr. Svetla
Balabanova of the Institute of Forensic Medicine in Ulm (Germany) did the same tests on several Egyption mummies and got exactly the same results as
Lescot.She also so got the same vitriolic response from the academics.She was condemned a fraud.
Dr. Rosalie David,Keeper of Egyptology,Manchester Museum took up the challenge of investigating the "coc aine mummies" which she thought seemed
quite impossible.She was working on the dual assumption that one of two things are true: 1.Balabanova’s tests were compromised; or 2.The mummy was
not truly ancient" (i.e. it was fake)Tests proved that the mummies Balabanova had worked on were real,and she found that the mummies in the
Manchester Museum also contained tabacco!
Dr. Balabanova’s work had been validated by the test results from Manchester but she was now hooked on the problem and began collecting samples of
naturally preserved bodies housed in museums all around Europe.So she obtained 134 separate bodies taken from ancient Sudan dating to a time long
before Columbus or the Vikings. One third of these bodies contained both nicotine and coc aine!!
What does this mean?
It means that there was contact between South America and Egypt long before these places were supposedly discovered by Columbus.
Yet this attitude still prevails in many acadmeics....
The idea of ancient transoceanic contact between the Old and New Worlds before Columbus (other than the Vikings) is simply not acceptable within
the tightly controlled halls of academia. Professor John Baines, an Egyptologist at Oxford is a typical case. He calls the idea of ancient
transoceanic trade "absurd" and bolsters his "argument" by noting that he doesn’t know any professional Egyptologists, anthropologists or
archaeologists who are "seriously" researching the idea. This is because, he says, the idea is not "perceived" to have "any real meaning for the
And those are just a cpl of incidents!!
You may find the links below helpful.