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JFK Speech on Secret Societies and Freedom of Speech




Topic started on 12-11-2007 @ 12:59 PM by zysin5


Hello Mr. Marrs

I would like to take a moment to share this video with you all here.. And I would be pleased to discuss this speech and what it means, and what it did mean at the time.


YouTube Link


When I first heard this speech, it was under the context that JFK was talking about the SS that have a tight grip on our great nation today.

But after talking to a couple history buffs, they said that my thoughts on this video are warped and taken out of context.. They told me that JFK was not talking about the illuminati. But about Russia.. And other nations that hold secert meetings and such.. But nothing to do with the NWO at that time..

This was in a time of the cold war, and a time where many spies where thought to be inside America.. And this speech was directed to the Russians. As I was told.. But my gut tells me otherwise, however I am a young man of 30 years old.. I didnt start to understand what was going on in the world I live until about 6 years ago.. And many things I read and hear can be taken out of context if you didnt live at the time of the event.. I am all about understanding, and keeping an open mind..
ITs just many people tell me Im a quack to think the things I think.. Such as the NWO agenda, and that the CIA murdered JFK..

Many young views that where not alive at the time and hear these words, its very easy to misunderstand what he is talking about here..

In a short post could you please enlighten me on just what he was talking about here, and who is was directed too..

This was one of the first speechs that got me started thinking.. I thought that he said this, and then they killed him becasue he was a threat to the NWO agenda..

Are my thoughts correct? Or are my history buffs friends correct when saying he was clearly only talking about Russia and our foes at the time?

Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts

[edit on 12-11-2007 by zysin5]



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reply posted on 4-2-2008 @ 04:11 PM by Jim Marrs


Howdy zysin5,

Here is a link to hear JFK's own words:

video.google.com...

It is clear that he is speaking about our country and our institutions, so do not let anyone try to tell you that he was speaking about the old Soviet Union. Furthermore, this speech was to the American Newspaper Publishers Association, which makes its meaningfulness even stronger since he was addressing the media moguls, many of whom belonged to those very same secret societies.

Kennedy's opposition to secret societies, hidden power and secrecy in general probably was another straw that broke the camel's back and lead to his execution in Dallas in November, 1963.

Jim Marrs



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reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 11:17 PM by gottago


Absolutely agree. I've listened to it many times and transcribed these crucial paragraphs. The speech definitely plays on two levels: the USSR as the 'beard' and the MIC/NWO for the 'enlightened.' He never mentioned communism or the Soviet Union in the speech, either.

Brave man; last true American to be President.

It's also beautifully written and eloquently spoken.


We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence, on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, upon guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumour is printed, no secret is revealed.



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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 12:28 AM by zysin5


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I cant thank you enough for taking the time out to respond to my thread here! This is very helpful to me and my studies. I did have a gut feeling that there was much more to this. And those scholar friends of mine just dont want to see the truth to all this..
But its extreamly clear to me, that these groups of people had him killed..

You see the deeper I dig into this subject the more I find you cant blame one person or one single group. Yet these groups who work in secert are so very careful about what they do, and who they let know what they are doing, that its next to impossible to prove this. However not impossible, just highly unlikely we will ever come to an answer..
To many people are to comfortable with today..
I am not.. Am I one of the only few people who feel like I live in a world that has been turned upside down. And shaken violently till everything in our pockets fall out?
I feel abused and powerless to stop these people..
How can you stop a corperate monster.. ITs has many legs and arms.. hundreds of eyes, and many mouths...
Its a beast that is killing us all...



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reply posted on 7-5-2008 @ 02:06 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas


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I have to say that was an awesome Google link to the words JFK had to say. Thanks for sharing that with us. I just wish there was an old newsreel to go with it.



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reply posted on 7-6-2008 @ 03:16 AM by Anonymous ATS


hate to ruin the party, but the speech is clearly and certainly about the soviet union. Everyone knew it at the time. If it meant anything else, JFK failed to communicate well, because everyone thought he meant russia.

He refers to the "events of recent weeks" - it's the invasion of cuba, the plans for which had been published by the press. JFK is admonishing them to keep government secrets so the russians dont find out what we're doing.

It was VERY COMMON at that time to refer to the "international communist conspiracy", nothing unusual in the use of that word

he doesnt mention "russia" but that's just typical diplomatic stuff; a veiled insult really.

but he does mention "the cold war"...so it's obviously russia

this doesnt meant there's no american conspiracy (illuminati or whatever)...i think there is, too...but this speech is not about that



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