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Originally posted by nyk537
It's still not really the issue. You and others here are only in an uproar because this happened on FOX news. You don't think comments like this get made on other networks as well? If this had been said by someone at CNN or another MSM source, nobody would care. It might get a little mention, but nothing more.
This is not about the comments or anything else, it's just about using FOX news as a scapegoat for the "impeach Bush", "war is evil" crowd to point their fingers at.
Originally posted by kosmicjack
If you listen to FOX we should all be hiding in our houses
Originally posted by 16kram
Kilmead is a moron, as are his morning show partners. I too have heard some pretty far out things on Fox News - heard one talking head say that protesters at soldier’s funerals (who would do that?) should get the death penalty.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade never advocated action against civilians. He suggested we arm the militants inside Iran so that they could attack the Iranian gov't.
Originally posted by jsobecky
What's wrong with that? Every day here on ATS I read where someone advocates the removal of our administration. Every day.
Originally posted by jsobecky
So why it is so wrong when the same standard is applied to Iran's leaders?
Originally posted by jsobecky
As was mentioned, why do you not condemn CNN and MSNBC for their extreme liberal bias?
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade is an American citizen. He has the right to free speech.
Originally posted by BitRaiser
I will always let my own morality be my compass in my personal choices. By saying you are willing to be so simple minded as to just "pick a side", you are saying that you support everything your "side" does, right or wrong.
I will NOT submit myself to that. I claim the freedom to criticize based upon the actions of others. I will not allow bias to cloud my judgment when facing the real serious issues of corruption, lies, and unabashed greed that plague our Western Society, yet I remain firmly a proud Canadian.
I suggest to you that your attitude is a cop-out. It's taking the easy path by letting others do your thinking for you. It's an attitude I have absolutely no respect for.
Originally posted by jsobecky
What's wrong with that? Every day here on ATS I read where someone advocates the removal of our administration. Every day.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade never advocated action against civilians. He suggested we arm the militants inside Iran so that they could attack the Iranian gov't.
What's wrong with that?
Every day here on ATS I read where someone advocates the removal of our administration. Every day.
So why it is so wrong when the same standard is applied to Iran's leaders?
As was mentioned, why do you not condemn CNN and MSNBC for their extreme liberal bias? Is bias a good thing only when it sings your song?
Kilmeade is an American citizen.
He has the right to free speech.
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade never advocated action against civilians. He suggested we arm the militants inside Iran so that they could attack the Iranian gov't.
He advocated setting off car bombs. Car bombs will involve civilians unless it's a very well placed bomb. Something tells me it won't be. The goal is to send Iran into chaos, not simply attack the government.
Originally posted by jsobecky
What's wrong with that? Every day here on ATS I read where someone advocates the removal of our administration. Every day.
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
How many wars is Iran in?
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
We're talking about removing OUR administration. That's OUR constitutional right.
Originally posted by jsobecky
So why it is so wrong when the same standard is applied to Iran's leaders?
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Because that's none of our business and he hasn't attacked us.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade is an American citizen. He has the right to free speech.
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
I'm an American citizen too. If I was standing in the middle of Washington saying I'm going to set off car bombs, I'd be arrested. Is free speech only applicable when it sings your song?
Originally posted by BitRaiser
Absolutely disgusting.
That man should be arrested under the laws of the Patriot Act for supporting a terrorist agenda... possibly becoming the first good use of those draconian laws.
Originally posted by jsobecky
And we haven't attacked Iran. But Iran has attacked us in Iraq by supplying the terrorists there with arms and training.
Which happens quite frequently over there, btw.
"Down with America!" and shouting for revolution. Should they be arrested?
rev·o·lu·tion /ˌrɛvəˈluʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rev-uh-loo-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. an overthrow or repudiation and the thorough replacement of an established government or political system by the people governed.
Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade never advocated action against civilians. He suggested we arm the militants inside Iran so that they could attack the Iranian gov't.
He advocated setting off car bombs. Car bombs will involve civilians unless it's a very well placed bomb. Something tells me it won't be. The goal is to send Iran into chaos, not simply attack the government.
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade never advocated action against civilians. He suggested we arm the militants inside Iran so that they could attack the Iranian gov't.
So, he's advocating another Iran Contra Scandal?
I see no big improvement there.
Originally posted by jsobecky
What's wrong with that?
Originally posted by Griff
Everything. It's not our country to mess with. Or would you like China comming over here and administering their form of government onto us?
Originally posted by Griff
The difference is: we don't broadcast to millions of people who listen to every word we say as if it were the gospel truth.
Originally posted by Griff
For one: this is not about biassness. It is about someone spouting that terrorism should be used to counter terrorism.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Kilmeade is an American citizen.
Originally posted by Griff
Exactly. So, he has NO right calling for anything other than what HIS country is doing.
He has the right to free speech.
Originally posted by Griff
No he doesn't. I can't call for the assassination of Bush. I'd be put in the slammer for my "free speech". We have free speech as long as we speak in line with the current laws. That in itself nullifies "free speech" as it is not totally "free".
Originally posted by Griff
Originally posted by jsobecky
And we haven't attacked Iran. But Iran has attacked us in Iraq by supplying the terrorists there with arms and training.
Please provide proof of this without a shadow of a doubt before we go car bombing anyone. Or do you believe it because FOX told you so?
Originally posted by jsobecky
Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Directly or by proxy?
Originally posted by jsobecky
Our right is change by ballot box. How does you advocating violent removal of our administration make you any better than Kilmead?
Originally posted by jsobecky
But Iran has attacked us in Iraq by supplying the terrorists there with arms and training.
Originally posted by jsobecky
Doesn't work that way. You should be saying, "If I was standing in the middle of Tehran"...
Originally posted by jsobecky
Regardless, protestors here in America frequently carry signs saying "Down with America!" and shouting for revolution. Should they be arrested?
Originally posted by darkbluesky
One can assume he means official Iranian military or government cars since he compares them to "our humvees"
Originally posted by darkbluesky
He is clearly referring to the Iranan supplied shaped charges planted on roadsides in Iraq that are being used to blow up US military vehicles, he is NOT talking about packing cars with explosives and driving them into crowds and killing civilians...
Originally posted by darkbluesky
Anyone with an 8th grade reading comprehension level should be able to understand this.