Do you think, by any way chance, that WW3 could lead to the developing of the one world government?

From all the talks about WW3 Bush is making, it is highly likely we'll be in WW3 (or are we in one already?), then...I think WW3 would definitely bring a lot of changes to the world, both politically and socially, and technologically.

What's your take on this? Is there any way to prevent the WW3? Is it the purpose of the "new" politicans to try to experience the use of power? Are the people don't know what politicans are doing unless the actions are taken?

[edit on 12-11-2007 by TheoOne]

i believe it is in Bush's interest, and anyone who is a part of the same team he's on..to start a world war to get EVERYONES attention so they could raise the issue, only way we can live in world peace is if we have a 1 world government! so we gotta start now to get people aware of what really is going on worldwide so when the time comes they cant get our support for the 1 world government...hopefully the war wont escalate that much either..but its very possible.

but see, look at the USA 70 years ago and look at it now. im sure its safe to say that THEY have conqoured the US, spread to other parts of the world, and are now ready to go for the whole world.. you see how bad the US has gotten thru the years...where other nations have gotten better, we have gotten worse..why? because of the people for the 1 world government.. imagine the whole world under surrvailence from the same 1 source. everyone under the same laws an religion.. would it really help? i dont see how so..what i see is if you dont follow the 1 set of rules, you get sent to a camp..thats what i see coming from it..everything but good.

Could WWIII develop the world goverment?

It could do. I could actually class this as WWIII with my geographical knowledge (I think Pakistan, Afghanistan and such are part of Asia or Persia - as a continent or is the continent the middle east?) Anyway... if so technically this war on terror coudl be described as a world war involving countries from every continent but NOT spanning entirely accross the land.

I'm very open minded about WWIII happening. However, war with Iran I am more able to beleive, will happen.


MY take on the situation - Fear mongering the fear mongered.

Prevention - Too late/No

If they want WWIII chances are the plans are already being drawn up. Parliament, Goverment and 'The vote' are not things that we control, only what we pay for.

No, I dont believe it will.

The moves of US foreign policy (dictated by the leaders and policy makers of the US, not the citizens) are fracturing the world, not unifying it. The only moves being made for unification are on the behalf of the citizens of the world. I dont believe any current governmental agency is pushing for such a goal of a one world government. One world corporation and control through that corporation perhaps, but thats another story.

Originally Posted by uneaq
but see, look at the USA 70 years ago and look at it now. im sure its safe to say that THEY have conqoured the US, spread to other parts of the world, and are now ready to go for the whole world.. you see how bad the US has gotten thru the years...where other nations have gotten better, we have gotten worse..why? because of the people for the 1 world government.. imagine the whole world under surrvailence from the same 1 source. everyone under the same laws an religion.. would it really help? i dont see how so..what i see is if you dont follow the 1 set of rules, you get sent to a camp..thats what i see coming from it..everything but good.

Im affraid you'll have to go a lot further back then 70 years. If you actually have a critical view of how the US was formed, for who's benefit at who's expense, you will see not much has changed. Corporatists and Capitalists (though they would not run by such names in their times) ruled the US way back when, and still do now. The democratic rights and freedoms are a result of social agitation by the suffering citizens of the early United States, not because government saw fit to give them such rights.

I think Bush is being controlled by the NWO. (That's probably been made clear in other posts but I'm new here.)

Anyway, the NWO are using their three-part tactic: Porblem, Reaction, Solution.

Problem: Iraq they say.

Reaction: Invasion, thus creating World War III (soon probably)

Solution: Unify the world in a "One World Government," allowing them to control everything.

WWIII will give them the perfect opertunitty to gain control.

But that's just my way of thinking.

Originally posted by Tengoku
Apparently one of their plans is to rid two thirds of the worlds population before they create their one government. What's the best way to do that? War.

If the NWO is so secretive, how did such a plan leak out?
If they took out 2/3rs of the population, who would carry the garbage, make the products, sell the products and manage the plants? How would you extract natural resources? Process them? Who would re-build the infastructure?

These questions and many more like them lead me to believe that the idea of population reduction to lead to an NWO is BS.

Besides, war doesnt lead to a guarenteed reduction level, it could end up being more or less. While chemical or biological agents would work faster, and are more controllable. Wouldnt those be better reductionist techniques?

I'd wager that some ofAmerica and some of Europe is wiped off the map.
Plus you know what North Korea and Kim Jong Ill are like -.-

I would imagine alot more area's to be decimated if such a plan were to come to fruition.

Originally posted by TheoOne
Do you think, by any way chance, that WW3 could lead to the developing of the one world government?

I don't think that this is the goal of the current expanding conflict. A one world government should result in Free Trade, which is the last thing that those who are creating these conflicts want - free trade means less market manipulation and less resultant 'pure' profit.

Originally posted by TheoOne
From all the talks about WW3 Bush is making, it is highly likely we'll be in WW3 (or are we in one already?), then...I think WW3 would definitely bring a lot of changes to the world, both politically and socially, and technologically.

I personally feel that we are already in WW3, in fact I'd say we haven't as yet finished WW1 - but that is my opinion - the so-called war on Terrorism is like all the others largely ideological and based on the fact they want to be free to make their own trade and not be dictated to be the Capital Imperialists, Corporations and Cartels. Terrorism is merely the meat in the sandwich, the excuse, the self-fulfilling prophecy that is manufactured consent to invade the countries that have what they want.

Originally posted by TheoOne
What's your take on this? Is there any way to prevent the WW3? Is it the purpose of the "new" politicans to try to experience the use of power? Are the people don't know what politicans are doing unless the actions are taken?

The politicians are actually powerless. The elected officials, when they are voted in and acheive power, actually realise they have none. It is the permanent administrative staff that hold all the information, that brief the PM or President, that advise those elected officials on the decisions they are going to make. They go with the flow or they get hopelessly sidelined.

Look at all those who promise to root out corruption, to bring in new blood or to radically change the system. What happens when they achieve office? Nothing.

They are not necessarily all liars and frauds, every now and then they are good, honest, hard working people - but the simple truth of the matter is that the constraints against change are too great. The power is held by a small select group and they are not going to relinquish that control to some bright young thing.

They might even think they are right, that the systems are perfect, more likely though the adage applies that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

I am in favour of globalisation and one world government, but not one that is based on any of the systems and personalities currently at play. Corruption has become too much a part of the air that they breathe and for civilisation and humanity to move forward profiteering and exploitation have to end. We are the only ones who can effect that change.

World war3 and the prospect of any sort of government...

So the world goes mad and every country that has a missile lets go...
I thing the only sort of social cohesion would be amongst the rats, flies and cockroaches ...be a nice thought though !!lol

What if there overall goal is not to be a One Government Order of peace, but a megalomaniacidal (spelling? :S) dictatorship?

PLus if you think about it, 1/3 of the population (A few billion? 2 billion or so?) would still be able to do well.

Originally posted by Tengoku
What if there overall goal is not to be a One Government Order of peace, but a megalomaniacidal (spelling? :S) dictatorship?

PLus if you think about it, 1/3 of the population (A few billion? 2 billion or so?) would still be able to do well.

2 billion sounds like a large number, but divided into industry its not. you have a large portion of those people needed to produce food and energy. You need construction workers and planners, politicians, you have consumer/marketable goods production, etc etc etc. Then you need a military force to police the entire population that is living in squallid post war conditions.

Edit to add: On top of that, all the heavy contamination will need to be cleaned up in order to harvest resources, and dependant on the ammount of land contaminated, where will 2 billion stay?

Why rule over 2 billion impoverished people when 6 billion is a much bigger number?

My idea as ive stated before on the NWO is its really mislabelled, it should be the OWO (Old World Order) What I believe the few want is power of the many. The Power they seek comes from Corpratism and Imperialism. The third world is a direct manifestation of the type of system they want. An entire population living as serfs while less than one percent live like kings. The more people under them, the better.

[edit on 13-11-2007 by InSpiteOf]

Thanks for the incoming replies guys, as it is very much appreciated.

Well you know, I believe there is one thing to remember, though - WWII helped to develop the United Nations, correct? So, and WWIII may bring the World Government (I think it may be actually a good thing, less wars, less borders, unless the powers are abused).

During the times of great empires such as British Empire, German Empire, Spanish Empire, Ottoman Empire, etc. - it would've been amazing if empires have joined together in order to establish the one world government, don't ya think? MAN!! Why didn't anybody think of that back in the day? Haha

If WWIII fails to do that, then I wonder what World War 5, 6 and 7 would be like.

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
I don't think that this is the goal of the current expanding conflict. A one world government should result in Free Trade, which is the last thing that those who are creating these conflicts want - free trade means less market manipulation and less resultant 'pure' profit.

Thanks for your input, KIlgoreTrout. It should, as the Free Trade should mean for the better.

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
I personally feel that we are already in WW3, in fact I'd say we haven't as yet finished WW1 - but that is my opinion - the so-called war on Terrorism is like all the others largely ideological and based on the fact they want to be free to make their own trade and not be dictated to be the Capital Imperialists, Corporations and Cartels. Terrorism is merely the meat in the sandwich, the excuse, the self-fulfilling prophecy that is manufactured consent to invade the countries that have what they want.

We are most likely in WW3. Frankly, I still don't get it why they call it a "War On Terrorism", it's not like the terrorists are gonna or trying to take over the world or something.

Lol, another plan for the best excuse, I guess. It's the politics, what can you do, right?

Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
The politicians are actually powerless. The elected officials, when they are voted in and acheive power, actually realise they have none. It is the permanent administrative staff that hold all the information, that brief the PM or President, that advise those elected officials on the decisions they are going to make. They go with the flow or they get hopelessly sidelined.

Look at all those who promise to root out corruption, to bring in new blood or to radically change the system. What happens when they achieve office? Nothing.

They are not necessarily all liars and frauds, every now and then they are good, honest, hard working people - but the simple truth of the matter is that the constraints against change are too great. The power is held by a small select group and they are not going to relinquish that control to some bright young thing.

They might even think they are right, that the systems are perfect, more likely though the adage applies that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

I am in favour of globalisation and one world government, but not one that is based on any of the systems and personalities currently at play. Corruption has become too much a part of the air that they breathe and for civilisation and humanity to move forward profiteering and exploitation have to end. We are the only ones who can effect that change.

Abusing the power leads to the means of corruption, right?

Again, thank you for your input, KilgoreTrout.

I for one think that the betrayal will be russia and china. look at how they have built up there military. and some people would say that china and russia would never nuke us because we would nuke back etc, etc. but actually we wouldnt. I heard that bill clinton signed a paper that basically says that the USA wouldnt fire a nuke back UNTIL AFTER THE BOMB COMING AT US EXPLODED/LANDED. now i maybe mistaken (pease correct me if i am wrong). But if what i heard was true, that would mean they could be aiming for our nuclear sites. if we can't nuke them back then china could send in their uber-army and thus prevent a new world order (at least how we thought). thats just my opinion and sorry if that went a little off topic-this is my first post and i am still learning this site (i normally just lurk).

[edit on 16-11-2007 by dextermikey]

WW3 has been planned and in the making for a while - it is the only and the final method of bringing in "One World Government" swiftly and efficiently.

Just think about it? We have so many different religions in the world today; these religions cause differences amongst people which causes conflict.

We have so many different cultures amongst the planet that once again causes differences and conflict.

And, we also have way too many people on this planet, and that is too hard to control.

So they will instigate and use a World War to totally destroy each and every single nation that is against the NWO/Western Priciples, and any nation that "may" be a threat in the future.

You can throw your Geneva Convention out with the Trash for it won't count for anything as will the rule of law. It'll be basically a free for all.

Carpet bombing the entire mid-east, central asia, south east asia, China and russia, and then parts of Africa.

It'll be a massive co-ordinated attack with every single craft and soldier available around the world to the New World Order. Complete and utter devastation aswell as massive population reduction.

This will (in their plans) lead to the Western World surviving the great battle, and the New World Order will govern the planet with an iron fist.....Peace through the use of force!

yes, there'll be survivors no doubt in areas that were planned to be annhialated, but they will be so far back in the stone age, they will not pose much risk, and will be taken care off as the NEW WORLD ORDER machine goes from country to country taking riches and resources.

The result, a world population of 1 billion people, 99% of them in Western Nations, all governed under 1 supreme council, using one currency and one language.

This 'new world' will them have available to them untold technology only dreamt of before, vaccines made available for almost all ailments, the length of life will be extended further than before......it will be some might say a Utopia of the 'perfect society' amongst a war ravaged planet, that will always skirmishes and battles on and off with survivors of the defeated nations.

BUT........

If the NWO doesnt pull it off the way that they plan and the opposing forces overwhelm and over-run them, then I see humanity falling back into a realm in comparison to the Dark Ages, with a much higher annhialation rate of humanity and society in general.

It won't be good, but its a path humanity will have to go down. The plans have been drawn decades ago and everything that has so far happened is a playing piece in this greater global games of Chess, where all that is left is the 'KING' and every other piece becomes the 'pawn'!