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Why do people think it's o.k. to force their moralities/beliefs on other people?


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reply posted on 15-11-2007 @ 05:10 PM by euclid


Originally posted by bigbert81
This is in my opinion one of the worst problems with our world today. I wish the term "religion" in the Constitution was used much more loosely to include ALL beliefs and not just ones which include a higher power (with a couple of exceptions).

People make laws about adultery, prostitution, gambling, buying alchohol on Sundays, selling cars on Sundays, and several others I don't care to think of right now, based on THEIR beliefs with no regard of others' beliefs.

To me it's MORE immoral to do this than it is to let (for example) 2 consenting people have sex for a few bucks, or let someone put THEIR money on the line for a chance to win more.

Sorry, rant over. Does anyone else have any opinions on this matter?

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You don't understand the Constitution. It forbids the FEDERAL government from making laws in regards to an establishment of religion. It forbids any government interference with religion in any way (though lately it seems bent on prohibiting/destroying religion).

No one is forcing any beliefs on you. The other post points out that prostitution leads to sex-slavery, human sex-slave trafficking; gambling attracts organized crime, et cetera. They are correct.

Your logic, however, is flawed. Hit the books and learn how to think rationally. A good place to start is Thomas Paine's books, " Common Sense", "The Rights of Man", and "The Age of Reason".

-Euclid



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reply posted on 16-11-2007 @ 08:24 PM by bigbert81


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Read my posts. You need to read the whole thread before you post.

this is not a one-liner. this line has been added to save me points.

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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 12:59 AM by syrinx high priest


Originally posted by bigbert81
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Ok, whoa, haven't been here in a little while.

Firstly, no. And don't make stupid assumptions like that. I bring up several things, none of which happened, and you hop on me picking up a prostitute?

Yeah, I can see you put a lot of thinking into that. Your assumptions are ridiculous.

And if you would actually READ what I said instead of getting these ridiculous notions, you would see that the world would NOT be run in any which way as long as it fit into their beliefs. People should have the right to live how they want to and pursue happiness on their own AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T INFRINGE ON SOMEONE ELSE'S RIGHTS TO DO THE SAME. Quite a bit of a difference there huh?

Oh who am I kidding, you probably won't be able to understand the caps above either.


I understood the part where you were in court and had a chat with the DA. so what did you do anyway ?



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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 04:14 PM by bigbert81


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Long story short, I had my gun wrongfully destroyed because a cop thought I was breaking the law when I wasn't, and the DA decided to continue to 'treat me as guilty' even though the charges were dropped.



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reply posted on 18-11-2007 @ 07:56 PM by Raist


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Again I will state that entertainment is not necessary. But I will say that it is a very good thing when used in moderation. Much like anything else to much entertainment can be a very bad thing. As it seems to be going now America is headed toward that very bad thing. Most Americans do not care about the important issues any longer so long as they are entertained. Even this thread is about the desire for a greater ease toward a certain form of entertainment. Entertainment is not the most important issue at hand though when we have politicians pushing to take away real rights and pass or attempt to pass laws that will go against the constitution.

We live in a nation where those who entertain are paid far better than those who risk their lives daily to help or save others. These people put out fires, they are the first in line when it comes to helping in an emergency, and they even risk their lives to help. It could be said that they chose this line of work but that is not a reason to just push them aside as if they do not matter or do nothing to deserve a greater amount of pay. These people are paid by the taxes that we all pay.

Many will not vote for a tax increase on issues that really matter but are more than willing to pay more for the cost of a ticket to see the next movie or their favorite team when they play. These prices rise because players and actors ask for more money, because they build newer bigger stadiums for the events to take place in. People go out and buy the newest item out on the market (the iPhone) and pay huge amounts of money for nothing more than being the first to own a new toy.

It is not that I am against entertainment simply that I am against being constantly subjected to a system that makes entertainment the priority of the public. You can see that this is the case by the massive amount of debt going on in this country. This is why the foreclosure rate is increasingly on the rise recently, because people are trying to live beyond their means but still managing to pay for their constant entertainment.

Another way to look at this is that true entertainment can never be removed from you so long as you can hear, see, touch, taste, make sound, and imagine. If that is not understood nothing I can ever say will help out and misery is always going to be at the doorstep. True entertainment has little to no cost at all. Entertainment is not about who has this or who has what, money does not really make one happy. Entertainment is about enjoyment it’s about lightening your mood and relaxing.

Raist



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