I agree with the OP. A sentient being cannot be so easily grouped in my opinion. The minute you can think, you are no longer the same as anyone who has come before. If I was a robot with free thought and will, would you expect me to follow draconian human laws? Well, why would you subject other humans to such things unless you were afraid. My body is human, but my mind is not. I want to get past this inept biological stage of my consciousness' life. If I was presented a way to transfer my mind to non biological body I would. Would you say I was still human even though my body wasn't? Laws only apply to the weak because they are afraid of punishment. I would accept any pain as long as I make my own choices. Only animals without true consciousness submit to others. I am a sentient being, attack me and I will defend!

Originally posted by bigbert81

Why don't I hear you making the same arguments about alchohol. No wait, because pot is illegal, therefore MUST be worse, right?

I didn't suggest in anyway pot is worst and I also stated that the act of using it is not the issue. You need to read my posts

My argument is that alcohol is controllable in that we have set tests that determine how much you have in your system and laws have been based on this. If a person smokes pot AND we had like test AND we had the ability to know how much THC is too much to make it unlawful when used in the same way as alcohol then why not legalize it.

As it is now I do not think anyone really knows how much THC in your system is too much, and the fact that it is still in your system up to weeks after use is also a rather big issue. Since it is a drug then public use of any kind would need to be banned, and this opens up more issues of it use around other people even in your own home.

As I have stated, I feel if something affects others then we need regulations/laws to limit the affects it could have on others.

Also, you say that it's a small percentage of brothels? How about 100% of them in the U.S. Doesn't sound like a small exception anymore does it?

Not sure of your point. I meant that brothels equal a very small percent of prostitution. Most women do not want to be in the position they are in and in that case they are victims. You my friend are talking about a very small percent of women who see prostitution as their trade, and to think that legalizing it would cure the majority of prostitutes that are forced into it by circumstances and then find they can’t get out of it is very wishful thinking. If anything it would open the doors to more abuse of women since then it would be legal.



[edit on 13-11-2007 by Xtrozero]

My Opinion

Why do people force their views one others?

Well it all goes back to my argument over caring vs apathy.

If you care about something enough you feel you must share it with others and

people don't think for themselves and basically the mob mentality rules.

If nobody cared about anything then nobody would force any belief on you!

well thats my opinion

Originally posted by bigbert81

Ok, I can see where your coming from, and here's my problem. There are charges called (at least in Colorado) DUID. Meaning Driving Under the Influence of Drugs. Police officers can tell if someone is acting this way.


Now here's what I'm getting, correct me if I'm wrong, 'Pot should not be legal because we have no actual meter (like a breathalizer) to measure the amount of THC in someone'.

Yep that's it

Weigh it. What's worse, allowing someone who smokes pot have their lives ruined, let street gangs continue to make money&kill people over it, let underground crime labs/organizations profit, OR not having a "pot breathalizer"?

Here is how I weigh it right now. I'm not sure what the right answer is, but if we did make it legal we would first need the majority to agree on it and since the majority of the country would not agree we are dead in the water until that would change.

But I think right now it would open a Pandora’s Box of other issues.

1. Anytime a person can smell it they could sue the person smoking. Also anytime a kid smelled it the person smoking it could go to jail for affecting minors.

2. Any company could do random drug tests and fire everyone who test positive for it, and since it is legal to smoke and stays in a person system a very long time that could be a lot of people who lives are ruined.

3. In an age where smoking is a big evil health wise I find it hard to allow pot smoking since it is also a form of smoking and does cause mostly the same health issues as cigarettes.

4. Right now we really have no way to determine how much THC in a person’s system would be considered not under the influence, and since it stays in a person a really long time then that could make that person basically stranded from just about everything but walking. This would open up a huge can of worms for people going to court over it.

These are just four off the top of my head that I do not think the situation would be any better. We would most likely have many more issues, but different than the ones we have today with it as it stands.

Originally posted by Raist

Entertainment is not a necessary thing for life.

Have to disagree with you there. If you feel that life should be all work and no play, all the power to you. Personally I don't see the point of living with no entertainment, and feel that it is absolutely necessary to prevent us from being a bunch of robots(even though the gov't would probably prefer us to be like that)

There have been a lot of good points on this thread, and some that make me a little angry. Laws should be in place for the protection of the people, not to try and force someones morals on somebody else. Live and let live. The problem is that bad things that happen are sensationalized much more than good things, and when that happens, there will always be people who think that they know whats best for everyone else and think that it is there duty to protect us from ourselves. Sorry, but that should not happen. No one has the right to tell anyone else how they must live their lives, regardless of the actions that other person takes.

It's a shame that too many among us don't seem to have an understanding of what it takes to be a good person, and to enjoy your life without infringing on the lives of others. All in all, I agree with the OP on this one.