Why Lemuria and Mu?

Isn't so little known about Atlantis, that Lemuria and Mu are almost beside the point. Is there any hard evidence they existed?

I don't know if this should be the same thread, but what is the best evidence that Atlantis existed? I know Plato mentioned it, but that's about all I know.

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Here are pages of vintage as well as, some relatively recent threads.

Have fun...

Ok, much obliged, I'll check those links out...

Lemuria

i.e. scientific error
en.wikipedia.org...
Mu

i.e. complete fiction
en.wikipedia.org...

1864, very good year for fictional lost continents

I just happen to be reading a book on MU right now.............written by James Churchward, called 'The Lost Continent of Mu'

James Churchward sure is putting forth some GOOD theory about proof..........he is saying that it was in the Pacific ocean and Easter Island, and ALL the Pacific Islands are tiny little chunks of Mu that are still standing. That the Easter Island monoliths were from Mu..............there are a bunch of photos of very ancient ruins on Tongo, The cook group, Figi and Hawaii are ALL remnants of what used to be the continent of Mu.
He is also saying that in Egypt, Angkor Wat and all over the ancient Mexican pyramids are references to Mu being the motherland of mankind.......that the Egyptians and the ancient American peoples all were colonies of Mu.
He puts forth some pretty convincing arguments to back these claims.......he is showing allot of glyphs and decypherings of said glyphs....making many references to the Egyptian book of the dead. Many references to Mayan writings/glyphs.........
..he is showing that the name Mu is NO mistake for it is written again and again and in reference to the continent of Mu, on severel different continents......it is not a mistranslation as latter thought had suggested.

It is a very interesting read. Its an old illustrated book, first printed 1931.........I have barrowed this book from a friend.



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Howdy River Goddess

Sorry to rain on your parade

Churchward reads well but is completely fabricated.

Example:

Hawaii is a chain of volcanos that go all the way down to the ocean floor, plus there is no evidence of humans on the island until the Polynesians showed up - that is pretty much the story for all the Pacific islands. If you think they subsided in recent history then you'd have to explain two oddities-no submerged (and very dead) coral reefs and coral reefs thousands of years old that are extremely well developed at the surface - how is that possible?

Pyramids, Angkor Wat and Mesoamerica? Not built at the same time but instead thousands of years apart.

Unfortunately there is no Mu...but enjoy read James (I did) but take it not as a factual book but instead a driven man's 1920s based fantasy.

I forget what documentary I saw this on but I did see it, talking about a rather large anomolous city on a Pacific island. Someone help me out here?

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Nan Madol

www.abovetopsecret.com...


As for Lemuria and Mu, I can add to what Kerkinana has already said. Both places are as real as Narnia .....

What is this?

Ok someone needs to come in to bat for Lemuria/Mu here.

Of course they existed! How ludicrous to think its impossible they ever existed - opens minds guys.

How do you explain the NUMEROUS ancient maps, accounts, ruins, tales, creations myths and historical records which clearly refer to a continent (Mu) based in the Pacific which sunk somewhere around 10,000 years ago?

Do you write them all off as fairy tales?

How is it even slightly plausible that a mass of cultures all described their origins as coming from a lost motherland which previously existed in the Pacific and then have them ALL coincidently referring to the same imaginary continent?

And before someone starts debunking Plato coz his timeline is 'out' according to modern sources, and before people start trusting modern day sources (which literally couldn’t be more removed from the era that Mu and Lemuria existed) over ancient sources, I have this question for you:

Why is our information, gathered in 2007, believed to be more reliable than information gathered anywhere from 2,000 to 15,000 years ago? Aren't the original sources for Plato's Atlantis and the culture in the Pacific basin more historically accurate? I mean they weren't written in 2007 - 2007 is SO far away from when Lemuria and Mu where around, so how can we pompously claim to know everything about everything based on recent information? Mu existed SO LONG ago now.

Remember - only last year water on Mars was also a fantasy to most….. now its confirmed with images.

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And then in a way recinded.

There is a difference between having an open mind and having a head so open it sounds like a wind tunnel. Lemuria/Mu is a 19th century fiction. Are there cultures/civilizations that existed in the past that have been half remembered or completely forgotten? I'm sure there are, but every story handed down by ancient peoples doesn't mean that they were talking about the same thing. People seem to take Plato's tale of Atlantis as if it were a first or second hand account of history. Even if parts of it are historical, and I believe they are, it is Plato's story as told by Critias. Critias heard it from his 90 year old grandfather who heard it from Dropidas who heard it from Solon. Solon heard it from an egyptian priest. No documentation of this priests story means no proof that it is 100% fact. Lemuria/Mu is a good example of what happens when a person who doesn't know about plate tectonics is forced to GUESS about what happened.

Lemuria and Mu are what the Indonesian Islands are today. No other place in the world had the right climate and landmass to be larger than Libya and Asia (minor) together.

You should check out atlan.org , it offers compelling evidence.

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Weren't the Egyptian priests the precursors of the freemasons? If you are one who believes the illuminati has hidden knowledge, it would seem you'd believe Plato's account. Sorry if I sound ignorant this isn't my area of expertise, just asking a question.

they are all inventions since the 19th century, the oldest map in existence is a picture of Babylonia that was carved around 600bce. Mu and Lemuria were first mentioned in the 19th century before then no one on earth had heard of either of them. One came from a mistranslation (Mu) and the other (Lemuria) was an unpoven hypothesis put forward ten minutes before the theory of continental drift answered the question it had been proposed for. the bed of the Pacific ocean has been mapped for strategic reasons and there is no sunken continent there at all. In addition there is no genetic evidence that any large population of people have vanished or appeared anywhere and there would be lots of this was the case.


Mu never existed. do a little research at credible sites and you will soon find this out for yourself

if you can't be bothered then read up there have been links to this information already posted in this thread

And what are you guys all basing your knowledge that Mu was nineteenth century fiction on? Text books which WE KNOW have been changed and altered to reflect the history they want us to believe? How much bad science has come and gone after being printed in text books? Sorry, but to get real truth you need to have no pre-conceived agendas and ideals. Text books cannot do this.

Did you know somewhere in northern Europe (cant recall exactly where) Hollow Earth theory used to be in school text books? Totally anecdotal with no evidence to support my statement I know. Did we once also not believe that earth was flat? Sun revolved round it?

What is truth to one era may not be truth to another, hence how can we possibly take the text books seriously when they wont give any serious study into the Mu ruins which litter the Pacific basin?

How do you explain that the Rongorongo script of Easter island being IDENTICAL to the ancient scripts found in ancient buried cities unearthed in the Mohenjo Daro region of India's Indus Valley?? How could this be if not for an ancient land mass almost linking the land masses?

Please refer to my Nan Madol thread linked earlier on this page to read about another ruin I and many others firmly believe are Lemurian ruins.

Do some research on Yonaguni off Japan's South East coast. They date the manmade
Pyramid-esque ruins to at least 12,000 years ago. If Japan doesn’t claim them to be native to them then who do these ruins belong to?

What about the ancient remains of levies, mooring docks and canals which used to separate the ancient Amazon basin with Lake Titicaca. They are now found on top of mountains in Brazil. Is it no coincidence that vast ancient cities (of which 90 per cent is still buried under the Amazon - as photographed by NASA satellites) existed at the ideal spot between Atlantis and Mu. A port city surrounding Lake Titicaca and acting as a half way point for those travelling from Atlantis to Mu and vice versa makes perfect sense to explain the ruins.

I could honestly go on and on and on. I have read many books discussing anomalous artefacts which when dated simply could not belong to any accepted culture in our text book past. They could only belong to Mu or Atlantis.

This is just a selection of them.

I have read a lot on this topic and don’t have my head so far open it sounds like a wind tunnel. I just examine evidence and come to the most likely conclusion.


Raoul Duke,

AS far as my knowledge goes, it is suggested that Freemasonary has its roots in Babylonian and with Egyptian worship of the first pharaoh, AkonAton (sp?).

But there is also the thought that Freemasonary actually extends back further than this and has its roots in the materialistic Sons of Belial movement which existed in Atlantis.

I feel for you. You are evidently so convinced that the scientific community is out to lie to you that you can't be bothered with FACTS. Firstly, Augustus Le Plongeon was the person who first coined the work "MU" from a mistranslation of the Mayan Troano Codex in 1864. Lemuria was a name coined to describe a hypothetical place where lemurs originated from. The Rongorongo script is only vaguely similar to the Indus script, more than 2300 years separating them. Yes, satellites have found indications of cities/civilization in the Amazon, but to say that 90 percent are still buried would be a gross overestimation. Also, remains in the mountains of Brazil cannot be equated with remains in the Amazon Basin, even if similar you can't say for a fact they were used the same way. Lastly, Akhenaten was NOT the Egyptian FIRST PHAROAH.

Well in fact I have found a couple of discrepancy's in Churchward's book.
He shows a map of the western four corners area of the USA and messes up The Grand River and The San Juan river misnaming one for the other..... this I clearly recall. I know there was another mess up that I found as well.......but in my mind a couple of mistakes does not a COMPLETE fabrication make.....

I happen to side with the idea that mankind has had some VERY ADVANCED civilizations so far back in the past there is NO remaining evidence for said civilizations..... carbon dating of certain artifacts have gone back as far as 6 million years, and of course have been laughed at. Can you explain the human foot prints that have dinosaur footprints crossing on TOP of them?.........with evidence such as these, I think it prudent to CONSIDER that Lemuria and Mu truly DOD exist.

I don't believe that to be true But even if it was, how do you explain the fact that writings discovered in New York and London are exactly identical? How could this be unless the 2 cities were once joined by a land mass?

1) please link to any claim for radio carbon dating any object 6 million years ago as I thought that it was only effective going back 75,000 years
2) the human footprints turned out to have been faked by creationists. Usually the claims of these people are laughed at but its nice to see that not everyone accepts the truth all of the time.