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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 11:03 AM by NGC2736
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Just a small thought here. Does anyone see two meanings to the way this is described as being buried in the west? Sometimes when a project is
"buried", that means that it is no longer publicly acknowledged. We have no way of knowing that the dirt we see in the photo is in any way connected
with digging a hole.
Also, the original photo from the book reminds me of other photos I've seen from the old USSR in the days of the cold war. As if this might have been
something the Soviets were working on, and that the west wanted to explore itself. This would also give a greater chance for the writing not to be in
English, as many of the workers would be likely to speak a Mideastern language.
Just speculation, as this is a small mystery we would all like to see cleared up some.
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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 11:06 AM by spikedmilk
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Two come to mind, White Sands and Utah - Salt flats (I think )
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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 02:33 PM by Havalon
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Hi Z!
Have you heard of Project Winterhaven?
This from Thomas Townsend Brown,
Abstract: For the last several years, accumulating evidence along both theoretical and experimental lines has tended to confirm the suspicion that a
fundamental interlocking relationship exists between the electrodynamic field and the gravitational field.
It is the purpose of Project Winterhaven to compile and study this evidence and to perform certain critical or definitive experiments which will serve
to confirm or deny the relationship. If the results confirm the evidence, it is the further purpose of Project Winterhaven to examine the physical
nature of the basic "electro-gravitic couple" and to forsee and develop possible long-range practical applications.
The proposed experiments are to be limited at first to force measurements and wave propogation. They are to be expanded, depending upon results, to
include applications in propulsion or motive power, communications, and remote constrol, with emphasis on military applications of recognized
priority.
[url=http:// www.americanantigravity.com...[/url]
Could be that this machine was from that project? Have you got this project on your files? The pdf is interesting to say the least!
H
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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 05:14 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Havalon
Hi Z!
Have you heard of Project Winterhaven?
Why yes I guess you could say I have... after all it was John's father who was a main contractor in that...
But thank you for pointing to it again
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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 09:00 PM by Havalon
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I suppose my next question is, does the OP's machine bare any resemblence to what Johns father was working on?
Are they two separate machines. (the gov't shiney one and OP's original ?)
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 12:08 AM by johnlear
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Here is another view from my collection of these photos which I received in 1988. It doesn’t show anything more than the others, just a different
view:
About a year later I found a picture of it on page
224 in "Space Time Infinity" by James S. Terfil published By the Smithsonian Institution in 1985.
The text under the picture reads:
“Tandem” mirror huge electric coils shaped in a yin-yang configuration, provides power for attempted at triggering thermonuclear fusion. Plasma
particles are confined, then fiercely squeezed in a magnetic force field. Rings of bright solar spots, (lower picture) are associated with both
thermonuclear fission and magnetic fields:
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 03:51 AM by Havalon
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Thank you John, One question still remains - is that machine, - the one from the original post - the one your father was working on with the Townsend
Foundation?
H
ps: Did you mean J S Trefil as in:
www.gmu.edu...
Interesting fellow!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 04:36 AM by robija
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Hi to all. My first post. And pls sorry for my english.
Despite all your comments I must ask myself, can't you all see the difference between the two machines. First - first machine is clearly smaller than
second (which you can see by field of view, focal length of camera etc. - I hope you will understand me), second the top of that "head" of first
machine seems closer to the center then it is at second machine...
They are not the same.
I thought that maybe this first machine is from long time ago and second one is just an imitation. But then i remembered that working with metal is
not SO old technology and it would be maybe rusted or "eaten by the time". So that theory falls in the water.
I have not some great facts about this and don't know what to say more. Mystery for me. But I like calling the Tesla name here (Tesla is
Serbo-Croatian just like me) cause he was the man well ahead of, not just his, but our time. His projects mainly stays in USA and some of them here in
Serbia. So it may be some of his old project, which maybe US gov tries to copy, and maybe not succeed.
Too many maybes. I give up. And again pls sorry for my english. I bet you don't know that much Serbian
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 04:50 AM by Havalon
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Hi Robija and welcome.
Your English is great. I also think there is a difference between the two examples photographs. These (in my opinion) are not the same machines. I am
in the process of researching further into this mystery!
Enjoy your time here.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 05:08 AM by robija
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Thank you very much and sorry for offtopic. Nevermore
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 05:19 AM by nzldude
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wow this thread has it all. can we first off conclude that the pictures are factual? I think that this thread has the capabilities of becoming
something big  with the CNN thing happening etc etc, are we starting to see disclosure becoming apparent in mainstream media......
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 05:34 AM by Havalon
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I don't think you were off topic, this is what the original poster wanted, plenty of input from around the world, each contributing to the jigsaw
puzzle to get the complete picture. Keep up the input! Tesla knew more than he was letting on!!
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 05:50 AM by stompk
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Take two magnets. One is neg, on pos. If you place them on a table, just far enough apart to where they don't slam together, there is invisible
magnetic lines between them. Same thing for gravity.
Imagine the complexity of the universe, where all of the things need to be balanced so the don't slam together.
When we plant a seed, we create billions of tiny little worlds. From one point, (the seed) the worlds expand. But there is always a path back to the
seed.
We don't understand the responsibility that we have when we create something.
Thank God, that He does.
Something to chew on on many levels.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 06:07 AM by stompk
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I drew a picture of what comes to mind.
Sorry, it's kinda crude.
Between the center point and the red ring, is the critical area.
The square dots represent the MFE magnets.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 06:51 AM by robija
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I understand you well. But I'm looking for answer to another question. I'm not even sure for what purpose was that machine (if not for Fusion). It
may be some magnetic thing. You mean that maybe in that "head" was one magnet and in other part other magnet. They was close precisely how much it
needs to happens the thing like with two magnets in our hands. Just in bigger scale
And then maybe fuse atoms with that power or ???
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 07:03 AM by stompk
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The article says there are two pairs of them. Actually, do we ever know how many there really are, if they even actually exist, etc.
The truth is, what you can imagine, and believe, is truth.
Sorry, changed that. Typing too fast.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 07:12 AM by robija
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I understanded that number was 6? somebody mentioned David star. But I already said too many ?????.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 08:38 AM by alanborky
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As an artist, what I instantly found most striking about this 'mysterious item' wasn't the actual 'artifact' itself but the 'incidental'
details surrounding it, in particular the mound of 'sand' or 'cement' located immediately in front of it.
According to initial impressions of this image, this thing must've been outrageously huge, a critter on a scale beyond our technical capabilities at
the time (the '90s), yet not only were the grains of the mound clearly visible, but they were also of a clearly standard uniform fineness, strongly
suggesting not only the mound was much, much smaller than it was supposed to be, but it was made of a product of normal everyday industrial
manufactury, such as the likes of cement or sand.
In fact the whole thing strongly resembles a 'cut and paste' job to me, elements of which may indeed've been extracted from images of the MFE
Magnet.
But even allowing for the possibility of an earlier 'authentic' undoctored version, the whole credibility or otherwise of all versions of this
image became seriously compromised the moment someone with malign or misguided 'good intentions' decided to improve things with the added-on
'cement' mound, either unwitting of the possibility, or simply in the hope that no one'd notice the pronounced discrepancy between the scale of the
grains of the mound and the supposed size of the 'artifact'.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 10:13 AM by WorldShadow
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Any one notice the little alien type guy in the picture. If you look where the so called dumpster is and you see that white logo, look just to the
right where the sand pile meets with those pylons shoring up the device. There you will see a shape that looks to be a biped of some sort looking in
the direction of the camera.
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reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 10:20 AM by robija
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Wow it really looks like. I didn't see it. Interesting. But I don't believe that this guy is real.
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