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reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 06:00 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by NJ Mooch
After checking out the links to LLNL I read nothing that says this was a failed project.


Like wise not seeing the words 'failed project" either

The Tandem Mirror Fusion Test Facility

Abstract
The Tandem Mirror Fusion Test Facility (MFTF-B) proposed to take the place of the Mirror Fusion Test Facility (MFTF) under construction since 1978 and scheduled for completion in 1982 is presented. The tandem configuration, inspired by the success of the Tandem Mirror Experiment, is expected to represent an increase in confinement time from 10 msec to several seconds and in power from 1/30 to almost equal to breakeven over the original MFTF, while using essentially all of the equipment currently under construction. The tandem mirror cell planned would employ a combination of the simple mirror solenoid and the minimum-B single cell which counteracts the limitations of each cell alone, making possible high values of the power input/output ratio. A thermal barrier is proposed to create a potential difference between plasma at the center and plugs of the cell without requiring high neutral beam energy and magnetic fields. MFTF-B represents an expansion of the original systems, including the vacuum vessel, vacuum and cryogenic systems, magnet system, neutral beam source, microwave power system, and operating system. MFTF-B can be completed by 1984 and represents a significant advance in the physics and technology of mirror reactors.


Harvard Papers

So this is listed under Plasma Physics and they state represents a significant advance in the physics and technology of mirror reactors.

Project started in 1978 and there needs to be a pair of them to work...

So if we have SIX buried... what the heck were they up too? Whether or not this is UFO related, it CERTAINLY is secret project related and thus perfect for ATS to 'dig up'




The data was from the caption of the image stompk posted



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reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 06:07 PM by Evasius
Many stories I've heard regarding alien machinery or back-engineered craft actually refer to the fact that the 'writing on the walls' is essential to its operation. They're actually symbols of instruction that either allow it to operate or enhance its performance. I've heard of quite a few cases where symbols were found, the most popular being Roswell. It was also most recently brought up again in the CARET Drone hype/hoax and was an integral part to the story.

The following is a clip from a Disclosure Project interview with Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin in which he speaks specifically about inscriptions on debris from a crashed alien craft. (fast-forward & watch 2:30 - 4:50).

www.youtube.com...

There are a few reasons why it might have been included in this particular story, The Rainbow Conspiracy. The most unlikely is that it's actually alien in origin and very old. The metal's level of oxidation should have been a giveaway, and from what I've seen in the photo it was well intact.

Another reason could be that the creators of the story wanted it to be more believable or interesting to true UFO aficionados. A witness account of symbols or writing on strange equipment requires further investigation, and if deciphered would solve the mystery. However left in as a side note, it only adds to the mystery.

The most likely scenario (assuming alien technologies have been recovered by the government at some point in the past) would be that this equipment actually is a failed government project. However it's the nature of the project that's in question -- if it did indeed have symbols on it, then its purpose wasn't exactly what was reported on that government website. The designing engineers were hoping it would do something spectacular, and they were basing their hopes on what the original was able to do. Unfortunately, it looks like they might have tried to mix alien & human technology and also improvised some of the mechanics. Aside from being a failed project, it could have been a complete disaster resulting from its unpredictability, hence why it was buried. (Google 'Montauk Project' for an example). But I personally can't see why there would be any mention of it anywhere on any official government site -- maybe this was just the government covering their butts after it was discovered.

Who knows? But I'd say there's a bit more to the story than we've found so far.



reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 08:46 PM by NJ Mooch
So I did some looking around and found this:

The Compact Torus Experiment (CTX) at LANL reached a core electron temperature of 400 eV in a series of experiments in 1989-90, some four years after OFE funding was terminated at the end of FY86. The decision to terminate funding was made at a time that the US alternatives program was winding-down, and was made on the basis of the difficult decisions needed as available funding declined. That the decision was not driven primarily by the physics is indicated in the continuation of the program until the fall of 1990 on Defense Programs funding for hypervelocity creation and on some internal monies.

www-ferp.ucsd.edu...

So the important part is where it says another program continued at LANL, not LLNL, until 1990. That is 4 years after the LLNL project ran out of money. Who funded the LANL project? The Defense Dept.

What was the Defense Dept doing with this project? They were working on hypervelocity creation.

So what is hypervelocity?

Hypervelocity tends to refer to velocities in the range of a few kilometers per second to some tens of kilometers per second. It is especially relevant to the field of space exploration and military use of space, where hypervelocity impacts (e.g. by space debris or an attacking projectile) can result in anything from minor component degradation to the complete destruction of a spacecraft or missile. The impactor, as well as the surface it hits, can undergo temporary liquefaction. The impact process can generate plasma discharges, which can interfere with spacecraft electronics

and
The properties of metals under hypervelocity have been integrated with weapons, such as explosively formed penetrator. The vaporization upon impact and liquefaction of surfaces allow metal projectiles formed under hypervelocity forces to penetrate vehicle armor better than conventional bullets.

en.wikipedia.org...

So what was the DoD up to back in the late 80s? I can imagine 3 things:

1. They were working on space equipment that would get hit by objects that were at speeds starting at Mach 8.8

2 They were working on objects that operate at speeds starting at Mach 7.3 for structural metals

3. They were working on EFPs

I just wanted to add this info since this research was taking place at more then one facility for more then one reason.


reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 08:48 PM by mentalempire
reply to post by NJ Mooch



I would guess that perhaps they were trying to build a hypersonic railgun or what have you.


reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 10:15 PM by mentalempire
reply to post by Bspiracy



Dude, the only comment on burial from an official source is that it "may have been buried". This is speculation only. There is no actual proof that it was buried.



reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 10:34 PM by spirit7
Originally posted by mentalempire
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post by spirit7



Read the thread, it's a humongous magnet of sorts.


I know, sorry I confused you. I'm throwing some stuff out there in regards to it being a giant magnet. Also, to me there appears to be some sort of a cockpit in the middle of it?


reply posted on 11-11-2007 @ 10:38 PM by mentalempire
reply to post by spirit7



Could be. The do-dad had to have been controlled from somewhere...
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