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reply posted on 20-11-2007 @ 11:04 PM by Bunch
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Wow guys! I have absolutely nothing to contribute to this thread but just stop by to say great work and my hats off.
To the OP, internos, Zorgon, NJ and the guy complaining about being ignored, even to John and his little cameo.
Anyways I get out of the way and keep enjoying this thread.
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reply posted on 20-11-2007 @ 11:23 PM by spikedmilk
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All you Zorgon, Internos, NJ,....anybody else?..with your research, are doing awesome. I am officially outside my realm as far contributing to any
solid knowledge of this thing but I am in all the way otherwise. This is probably one of the best questions I have ever asked.
Nice videos btw, so why aren't we doing that stuff with big things..like cars?
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reply posted on 21-11-2007 @ 03:40 AM by zorgon
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In the post I quoted above we see the 'business end' of that big fusion reactor...
Well I came across another document that has a similar sketch...
Your gonna love THIS one... its a 'back at ya NJ' type of document...
Title...
SPACE NUCLEAR POWER AND MAN’S EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATION
Date:
LA-UR--83-449
DEC 1983 007561
Source:
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Also posted at: FAS.org
What are we talking about here?
Nuclear power in Space...
Here is a list of spacecraft carrying nuclear power...
But the main focus of this document is the Nuclear Power plant for the Moon Base....
Here is a sketch from the paper... It is interesting to note that they felt the need to cover the structures with camouflage
LANL 00248696 PDF
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reply posted on 21-11-2007 @ 05:22 AM by zorgon
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You guys, gals and 'others' all know my hunt for what they are doing with the Helium 3 once it leaves the mines....
Well while tracking the LDX from MIT I followed a lead that produced the following slide show presentation from the University of Wisconsin...
The slide that REALLY gave me that jaw dropping bug eyes Bush expression on the previous page was this one...
So in 1962 NASA was publishing reports of designs for Fusion rockets that use HE3... This puts it right into the time line that John and I believe we
had an active mining/moon base operation on the Moon (this is backed by documents I will release as soon as I get two more volumes)
Now lets move ahead a little and have a look at the 1972 model... I like this one... looks like a comet...
Moving further up in time, lets have a look at 1987...
Let me introduce you to VISTA... very interesting craft... notice the landers...
fti.neep.wisc.edu...
Now considering the fact that HE3 is very rare here on Earth... where are all these projects getting it from?
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reply posted on 21-11-2007 @ 05:37 AM by zorgon
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Jack Arneson has been diligently and enthusiastically digging through piles of papers and following leads....
When I posted the "Looking Glass" paper he came across ALICE...
This will lead into the Anti Matter documents... but before I turn in I wanted you all to meet Alice...
"What a curious plan!"
No no no not THAT Alice...
This One...
Now THAT is a very deep Rabbit Hole
Seems they create anti matter with this thing, though it seems highly inefficient...
aliceinfo.cern.ch...
aliceinfo.cern.ch...
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reply posted on 21-11-2007 @ 09:04 AM by spikedmilk
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reply posted on 30-11-2007 @ 10:25 PM by zorgon
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Well since we started on the trail of the FUSION PAPERS..
It appears that I forgot something in my rush to post direct links to official sources...
I forgot the fact that there are thousands of viewers here and that those viewers would all follow the links...
This would create hits on those sites that may have only had 1 or 2 views a week if that... Now I cannot be certain that this is the cause...
But last week the LANL archives removed papers on the "warp drive' and other gravity shielding papers and today OSTI pulled one of the fusion links.
I have not had time to check the others but this is not good... who knows what else might have been there...
It IS of course possible they simply moved them to another directory... but they are gone for the moment...
This was the list of fusion publications...
Search Error: null
Last Updated: 11/30/2007
www.osti.gov...
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reply posted on 30-11-2007 @ 10:47 PM by downtown436
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reply posted on 30-11-2007 @ 11:29 PM by Alxandro
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Great post and great detective team work.
Questions:
Did these super magnetic objects remain ON when the decision was made to have them buried in the sand?
Were they all buried together or were they strategically buried in various locations?
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 12:18 AM by goosdawg
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Ack!
They're on to us!
At least the BS and numbers crew haven't been tipped off yet to this thread!
Maybe they only get paid if they debunk/post in a JL forum, eh?
Guess we better enjoy it while it lasts...
At any rate, and, as always, good work Z!
And, of course, internos, too! 
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 12:32 AM by Jim_Kraken
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Uh, maybe they pulled them because they weren't scientifically sound and they were making room for the stuff that was? Kind of like what I wish this
forum would do?
Image is everything, people.
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 12:49 AM by goosdawg
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Hard to say, now that they're gone, eh?
But when they pull'em like that, all of a sudden like, it tends to make one think they may have had something legitimate they didn't want thousands
of people constantly accessing, don't you think?
More so than to think they posted something "scientifically un-sound" and just now discovered it, since I imagine whatever they posted
originally was, prior to being posted to begin with, vetted by someone who would know the difference, eh?
Imagine that!
BTW, you do follow the links posted, don't you?
It would be a shame, and, frankly, a waste of your time, to come into this forum with your mind made up about things of a speculative and secret
nature.
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:02 AM by rkoftheyr
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I think they said it was mining equipment already.
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:03 AM by Polite American
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Originally posted by zorgon
Scientists are still shouting teleportation is impossible (though some are getting results) yet I have DoD/LANL/AFRL documents talking about Stargate
wormhole teleportation that not only goes from point A to B, but to other dimensions, other universes AND back in time
And they talk about it like its common place and point to naturally existing gates...
King Zorgon, I must say that you are a natural born leader in this type of research and never has anyone captivated my interest as you and Mr. Lear
have on these issues beore us.
But to quicly get to a couple of my questions.
1.Where can a mere mortal as I acces these documents you mentioned above?
2. From what I remember from the Zorgon/Lear moon basics 101 class a while back, was that HE3 can only come from the moon? if this is correct then is
HE3 not the smoking gun that proves your moon theory?
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:28 AM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Polite American
1.Where can a mere mortal as I access these documents you mentioned above?
 
The two wormhole tech papers can be found here... (both links still worked last I checked but I saved the files)
The Technology - Airforce Research Projects
As to a list of resources... (this is not complete yet always adding to it)
Resource Database
Patent aArchive, PDF library and video library are almost done just need to create menus with titles and short description
2. From what I remember from the Zorgon/Lear moon basics 101 class a while back, was that HE3 can only come from the moon? if this is correct then is
HE3 not the smoking gun that proves your moon theory?
Well we thought so... but even with patents by NASA in 1992 for a "Lunar generated liquid (HE3) cargo ship via a specially outfitted shuttle, seems
we aren't getting the point across
There is also HH Schmitt with Intralunar Intra Mars Inc wanting to use Saturn V's for picking it up but that's later
I think the biggest problem is to much related info in to many threads... I will have to make time over the holidays and do a summary
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:31 AM by Jim_Kraken
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Actually it's weird, because I was a staunch believer in anthropogenic global warming before I started coming here, and then I read an article here
which made me do a complete intellectual 180 in that regard, and the rest is history as to why I'm here. And, well, I'm pretty sure that I'm right
about the "scientifically unsound" theory because, well, the vast majority of science agrees that those concepts *are* scientifically unsound.
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:32 AM by Jim_Kraken
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Nah, bigass magnet for fusion experiments...but now the pro-Lear crowd is just busy propping up their mythology in whatever poorly-reasoned way they
can. Don't confuse them with the facts.
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reply posted on 1-12-2007 @ 02:40 AM by Polite American
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Originally posted by zorgon
I will have to make time over the holidays and do a summary
You know...I would happily pay $39.95 for the hard copy signed by the athor(s)
As I am sure of the rest of ATS'rs that hang on every line you guys post here.
After all your time and effort is valuable and I for one would love to get all the info in a hardbound manuscript...just a thought.
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reply posted on 2-12-2007 @ 11:12 PM by nzldude
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great thread!
keep the info coming and the topic alive
if the facts are true then we are facing a very interesting future
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reply posted on 3-12-2007 @ 05:40 AM by Havalon
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The '60 minutes' program had an Australian report on 'mining Helium3' from the moon tonight. A kilo of this stuff would make the price of gold
look like clay! (I do not mean the expence of getting it back here, but the monetary value of that kilo alone.)
No wonder China, Russia, India, Japan, the US, the European Consortium and N Korea are interested in returning to the moon. I just hope they are
civilised about it this time. Dispute over soveriegnty can get messy!
It also covered setting up the bases on the moon. At the end of the segment, the reporter asked the question, 'is there any intelligent life up there
or on Mars?'
The Australian astronaut in charge of setting up the bases on the moon replied (whilst not looking directly at the reporter but instead averting his
eyes to his shoes!)
"No....but that does not mean there is no intelligent life elsewhere in the universe!"
Now, I know a little bit about body language and this guys body screamed that he was not telling the whole truth!
I must apologise for not taping it and downloading it etc, but I am not that tech savvy, plus I have a clunker of a pc,
(one up from the commodore 64 I think! :lol
Way to go guys, the media are starting to get drip fed by the look of it!
Yay! I got it!
sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au...
HARRISON SCHMITT: Those two things - no radioactivity and no waste being produced at all - and also the high efficiency of conversion to
electricity, give it a tremendous advantage over any other - practically any other - so-called nuclear fuel source. For example, this is... if you
have helium-3 in the same mass as this rock, same weight - say a kilogram - that would be worth, oh, about $14 million in coal, relative to
coal.
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