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reply posted on 28-11-2007 @ 07:00 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by dk3000
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The wizard is right on the money as is Lear with the exception of a few key points which are not enough to debunk their theories.

The problem is they have no evidence that their ideas are correct. Neither have supplied any credible evidence of the existence of the sophisticated holograms.

The people have been deceived on a scale so massive that it defies comprehension- which is exactly what it was designed to do. It is not a failed red-flag op. Quite the contrary- it worked like a charm.

This is an interesting opinion.

The government does not give a hoot about conspiracy theorists and never has- in fact most conspiracy theorists are unwittingly propagating disinformation causing even more confusion and distrust with facts- clearly affirming incompetence- which only serves to support the government not being able to pull off such a massive ruse.

ie john lear and wizard in the woods

David Copperfield made a jet disappear on the tarmac- the Statue of Liberty disappeared and many more events. The powers that be are even better magicians- thus anything is possible.

Well not anything is possible. Nobody has the ability to defy physics. This is why there were no hologram planes.

And while we argue fact and fiction- our freedoms are being systematically destroyed and many times with our go ahead for the safety of the nation.

This is a very valid and real point that should be understood by everyone.

Everyday this becomes more evident- the debunker's are relentless, repetitive and they will never stop- EVER.

Well I think many people misunderstand the difference between a skeptic/truth seeker and a debunker. For example, John Lear keeps posting his fanciful ideas as fact. Many people ask him to prove it yet he won't do so in any way. So does demanding a person back up what they say mean we are debunkers or simply truth seekers?


reply posted on 26-10-2008 @ 05:51 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Basically the twenty or so witnesses to planes were news producers or their wives or at best reporters. No Joe the plumbers.Having gone thru several stages of piecing together from all the information both good and bad over the web I have come to the certain conclusions given the limited information I can piece together. Several people have pointed to WTC7 as being the smoking gun for the 911 truth movement but I think now the real smoking gun is the lack of planes at any of the attack sites.I remember every time I turned from one channel to another the unnatural and obvious different lighting from each channel. I remember also how each of the networks had a simultaneous blackout during the programming just after the plane crashed. What could have caused that? I remember feeling it strange that the only first hand witnesses to planes were high ranking news producers, their wives or other media reporters, no Joe the Plumbers here. I remember that no Black Boxes for any of the planes have ever to this day turned up. I remember no prosecutions have ever come up for those people who bet heavily with "put options" that the stock for American Airlines and United would fall after 911No Black Boxes. No pilots! No scrambled jets! Osama said he didn't do it and I believe him! The people in those planes are probably dead. Many would have been possible witnesses to the truth so the plane crash was a good story to get rid of them. Many other people died mysteriously after and before the Kennedy assassination. I keep comparing these two events because they were done by the same people maybe a new generation. Oliver Stone never quiet let us know the real truth in JFK just like in his 911 movie. He is big liar to tooAnd if you look at the flight list of the four planes that disappeared that day you can imagine the reasons these particular people were gotten rid of. One cameraman for Fox news. Several worked for Raytheon, Lockheed, General Electric, an NBC producer who wouldn't cooperate, a US navy physicist, members of the Defense department, Boeing Engineer , defense contractors, auditor and partner for PricewaterhouseCoopers, ten software developers, several communications specialists. Why did these particular people die. The planes on TV were just Blue screen technology .


reply posted on 30-10-2008 @ 03:44 PM by evilempire
No planes is not equal to holograms being used. The use of missiles (probably some type of JASSM missile painted to look similar to a united airlines flight) planted explosives, and maybe some sort of other weapon we don't really know about is the most logical explanation. Both missiles (small planes), and explosives were reported on the scene of 9/11 as being heard and seen. Multiple people said on television that they did not see a jet before the second hit, there were also reports where people said that what hit the tower sounded like a missile, and it would be very easy to tell the difference between a missile and a huge jet flying above you.






All of the video they showed on the news was fake, all of the planes were fake, no planes hit the towers, no plane hit shanksville, no plane hit the pentagon, it should become more than obvious once you watch all of September Clues

Google Video Link
and if that's not enough-www.psy-opera.com... that link is a scientific analysis of the news footage that day, easy to understand and essentially should be enough to prove to anyone that the videos, amateur and professional, were fake. I challenge anyone to attempt to debunk that PDF. The 9/11 truth is that there were no planes, once everyone realizes this we can easily hold the people who made the fake video, showed the fake video, etc, responsible for helping to cover up the real events of 9/11.



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