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'Twitching' Illness in Virginia School


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reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 09:44 PM by cybertroy


I don't know that I would chalk it up to caffeine. I know you can get jittery and stuff from caffeine, but...

Not sure about the aspartame, either? Unless there was a recent introduction of the substance in the school in an attempt to do away with sugar, like someone mentioned in an earlier post. (I do believe Aspartame to be potentially poisonous though)

Interesting times we live in. Could our kids be getting set up for some type of "vaccination?" Just a theory. We'll see how things work out.

Troy



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reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 08:51 AM by Archerette


I just was reading about a mystery illness in Africa that has sickened 200 people and resulted in 4 deaths and one of the symptoms is muscle spasms. I wonder if they are at all related. Doubtful due to the distance, but just thought I would put it out there.

Story is here:
africa.reuters.com...



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reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 11:30 AM by grover


I am unfortunately in the process of moving and am having to resort to library computers so I am running a little behind.

Like I mentioned before this is going on in my hometown and as of thursday there had been another case reported and they showed this girl and I am still not so sure its not a hoax, her trembling did not look real to me. But all I saw was what was shown on the local news.

Another thing that was mentioned thursday was this woman who lives next to William Byrd (the high school) started having these trembles in the summer and is now restricted to using a walker, AND her dog has been ill over the same period of time as well, the media did not say whether the dog trembled or not, just that he had been ill. The woman's doctor told her that she should move out of her house but again the media did not say why he(or she) said that.

All that being said to date nothing has been found to be the cause of it.



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reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 01:09 PM by Blueangel7



Originally posted by Skyfloating
When I was younger I had that twitching urge. I later found out I get it when drinking too much diet coke. After quitting on diet coke, the urge disappeared. That as a side-note.

If its less than ten cases, then it could also be that the rumour of it happening is turning into a self-fullfilling prophecy of more of it happening or something.

But this is straight out of a "slow-creeping-invasion" movie. In 5 years we might say "It all started at that school in Virginia, remember? Who would have thought it would become the worldwide epidemic?"


Wow, if I drink one Diet Coke, I will be up all night long. There is just something in it that makes me so nervous. But speaking of twitching, my eye has been twitching for the last month, and I was wondering why. Remember the Florida fires of 1998? There was a huge fire near our house, and I could see the glow of the fire from my kitchen window. There was so much smoke. My face and eyes and legs were twitching like crazy during those fires. I wonder what was making me twitch. Some type of chemical from the fire?



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reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 02:54 PM by wigit


There's probably thousands of things that can cause these symptoms but if it happens in clusters I'd want my water checked first. Urine samples, I mean, then the drinking water.

According to Wikipedia - voluntary muscle movements originate in the brain but involuntary movements such as a heart-beat or twitching come from signals that originate in the spinal column through a feedback loop with the brain.

It could also be something wrong in "transport" channels in the muscle membranes. I think it does sound like a chemical imbalance or, it could even be a virus. Maybe it's mass hysteria? Interesting to see how this pans out.




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reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 03:29 PM by anhinga


Judging from this Washington Post article from May of 2006 -- stops the sales of soda (...but wait...) and energy drinks in schools. Yet, here's my problem and should you do the research on the aspartame, this thread's 'side effect' has been listed in numerous articles / medical studies.

Personally, this "law" worsens the situation -- they're allowing the aspartame to be standard. Sickening and proves what garbage the Clintons are.


In an agreement to be announced by former president Bill Clinton, Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) and the head of the American Heart Association, the industry also will limit the amount of other sugary beverages, such as fruit drinks, in school vending machines. But diet soft drinks will continue to be sold in high schools that allow such products.


Should you still be interested, do a little search of the actual machines still existing in the schools, I found a couple w/ a simple G images search. Regardless, they're still serving poison to the youth -- it's spelled out in b/w in the Post article clip.

[edit on 10-11-2007 by anhinga]



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 08:01 AM by ejsaunders


I just thought I'd post something useful, I'm sorry I haven't read all the way through yet (kinda busy with something so don't know if its been posted, and I will delete if I find it has).

I take muscle relaxants, long term (Tizanidine Hydrochloride, normally used for relaxing you prior to operations, and ONLY in short term care) for a chronic pain condition. These things alter your liver chemistry (cause it to become fatty over a period, which is why they are dangerous long-term), and also make your blood thinner (side-effect of the liver alteration), and can therefore cause blood pressure changes too.

I give this information out purely because these would indicate to me that these things have been going on long-term and therefore a toxscreen wouldn't cover a PRESCRIPTION DRUG necessarily, it'd have to be requested but the changes in liver and blood chemistry would be noticeable, but you'd have to ask a doctor for both.

Side effects when it wears off? Persistent tremors, enough that it looks like you're having an allergic reaction or are a drug addict coming down, it can last minutes or DAYS.

Consider getting the children a blood test to see if their blood is thinner or a LFC (Liver Function Test) to check if their liver is abnormal, this may indicate the presence of muscle relaxants. What they would be doing in a school (speaking as a previous teacher), I don't want to speculate, but people COULD be cutting drugs with them, or high doses, they do make people 'high' in a similar way to morphine or opiates. Tiredness is a big side-effect, so if you see kids being more tired than usual (at the start its like narcolepsy, it shuts you down almost instantaneously and you have no control over it, it just happens and you don't wake until the relaxants have worn off).

Just a thought, but I don't like the implications if this is government interference. Consider what you could do to a person who won't wake regardless of the level of noise or even to stimulus. Disgustingly scary.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 08:06 AM by ejsaunders


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" speaking of twitching, my eye has been twitching for the last month, and I was wondering why."

I get this occasionally due to my chronic pain (which makes me unable to sleep without chemical aid), its a natural thing, your body is trying to tell you you are TOO tired, it may also occur with tremors in your sides or chest (down the sides of your body under your arms). Its either you haven't been sleeping enough, or you're stressed. Either way, an 8 hour GOOD sleep is the answer. Sleep induced by tablets doesn't seem to make as good a difference as natural sleep, so if you take something like a sleeping tablet regularly like I do, or a natural remedy your body needs longer sleep to someone 'normal' so the chemicals can wear off and it can naturally do what it needs to do while we sleep.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:05 AM by Juicy


If all they are doing is getting blood tests, they are going about it the wrong way. You won't get many answers from that. They need to look into seeing a neurologist if they are that worried about it. And its LFTs, not LFCs.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:33 AM by an0maly33


i'm 26 and i still have periods of a few days at a time where i get an uncontrollable twitch/spasm. they're spread out enough that it doesn't bother me too much, but it's usually my face (side of my nose or top eyelid) or my hand/fingers.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:35 AM by ejsaunders


Indeed it is, I pressed the wrong key and I couldn't edit after I noticed it. What I was trying to get over was the fact that taking these things long term mean that when given them, you will notice no difference, you appear normal, only when they 'forget' to give them do the tremors occur, and the only way to test for it really is to request a test for it, or check blood for liver issues. If our governments can put toxins in water and HIV in blood (alright, it was more a case of apparently not noticing, but either way its blame) then why can't they either accidentally or on purpose, add prescription drugs to food that ultimately, they provide to children in their care.

I'd imagine the lab would pick up on it, but I know I've gone for a test just after taking them and they didn't show up in my blood enough to be noticeable.

It was merely a suggestion as to the cause, not a definite answer, it could be anything as many have said, it could be a nerve toxin that in small doses causes tremors and isn't traceable, but I have first-hand experience of muscle relaxants and know the side effects, and if I were a parent of one of those children, thats one less thing they don't know MIGHT cause it.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 09:59 AM by Juicy


Blood tests and liver tests alone will not figure it out. LFTs only test on the liver..amylase, lipase, AST, ALT, etc. Blood tests don't tell much in the way of what is being talked about here. Did you ever think that by the time the twitching has started the drug is out of the system but it has somehow manipulated things along the way? In that case, only a neurologist and a LOT of testing would only be able to figure it out.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 10:08 AM by ejsaunders


Exactly, but I was merely giving the fact that if it were a relaxant and it was continued if this were a long-term test the tremors would merely be a side-effect of it wearing off rather than a side-effect that repeatedly presents itself. If that is the case, this could have been a fortunate accident in the delivery system then it could *possibly* be identified by the change in liver chemistry and THEN further tests could be requested, given that I doubt many of these people are rich but want to get to the bottom of it, and that is a simple test that can be done by a family doctor rather than have the school request someone who the parents might not know (and therefore might be governmental) do something instead and reassure them all was well when it wasn't. I'm not arguing with you, I'm agreeing that it won't solve anything, and that I definitely agree a neurologist should be consulted if this continues as it isn't likely to be a relaxant or if it gets worse. It was a possibility, not an answer.

If it were me, I'd be asking for everything, but I know its costly and if it were some sort of weird test, the people doing the testing, might fake results anyway given the governments track record on illegal, unethical testing on its subjects.



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reply posted on 25-1-2008 @ 10:20 AM by Juicy


I'm not arguing either. But obviously if tox screens and LFTs have been done (don't know if they have) and nothing is found, then thats what they will have to end up doing.



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