Why its pointless trying to prove god, page 1
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reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 01:57 AM by madnessinmysoul
reply to post by melatonin


exactly....

well, thankfully we don't need to rely on philosophy and all of its intellectual masturbation

we have it's "bastard offspring" (as mel once put it), science


reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 05:40 AM by Damien_Hell
Originally posted by jedimiller
I wanted to take the chance, proving that happiness is GOD. and that going to church can make you change and be happy and that equals to god. and that god controls all elements, like Air and Fire.


HEY EVERYONE everything that makes you happy IS god. So I guess masturbation is god. And for the gays gay sex is god. For me headshots on UT3 are god. And if you EVER make ANYONE happy YOUR god.

Originally posted by jedimiller
I've gotten comments saying I have no Logic or other, yet, I've taken numerous logic courses in college, etc.


And slept through them?



Originally posted by jedimiller
Basically, you say it's pointless to prove there's a god.
but what did jesus do? he preached the word of god and people believed him. now, did he prove that god existed? no. he could never do that, but people believed in him and he proved that god was real in the end,


First off there is NO proof jesus existed and if he did, he's nothing like what the bible says. Seeing as how the bible was written DECADES after he died. Second if he was real he prolly just screamed "YOU'LL BURN IN HELL IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE" And scared a bunch of people, or just convinced the king (or whater the right word is) into believing it and BAM EVERYONE has to believe in it or else. He didn't prove god because everyone was too dumb back then to want proof, blind faith worked for them.


Originally posted by jedimiller
by ways of the bible. I am doing the same. I'm not saying i'm like jesus, but in A way i'm using his same principles and ideologies..that you should be happy and going to church may introduce you to god.


Plz prove god using the bible, come on lets see this magnificent proof.


reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 06:03 PM by Valhall
reply to post by Damien_Hell



I know exactly what you mean. I have the same concept of people who state as fact there is no God.

It's okay...we'll both muddle through.



reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 08:16 PM by highfreq
reply to post by Damien_Hell


Your absolutely right . Week after week, month after month a thread is started trying to proove the existence of God. I must emphasize at this point that I hold the highest repect for the members on here that are Christians. However I tend to view this subject a little differently than the norm. The fact of the matter is no one person on this planet can proove scientifically God Exists. One can make some interesting and valid arguements, that can really get you thinking. One can listen to testimony's story's and first hand experiences, but the fact remains there is no scientific/physical evidence to proove otherwise. This is the dead end for most right there.

Faith is not proof, faith is a virtue, and as the Bible say's is a gift from God. Not everybody believes and not every body disbelieve's. These discusion's never proove anything in the end.

They do however strike up some interesting conversation and thought. The arguement for God will go on, and rightfully so. And there will always be the disbeliever in the other corner ready to go to battle. This subject holds the same kind of stigma to it as the UFO phenomenon. You have your die hard believiers and your hard core skeptic in the other corner. One side says they exist and offer there burden of proof and then their are some that wouldn't believe, even if a disk landed in there front yard.

The burden of proof is not a constant. Each individual reserves there own judgement to what is enough proof. If Jedimiller believes he feels God in the air or spirit, then who is to say that he doesn't. Now I must say that I wouldn't have personally started a thread about it, but none the less his experience was real as he experienced it. The same can most likely go for most people of faith. Some thing, someone, some experience some where along there life convinced them enough that there is a God. Again this is why peolpe that are religious/believers are considered people of faith. It has nothing to do with science and everything to do with faith/beliefe.

I give props to Jedimiller and ones like him that venture into this realm. But to play devils advocate Jesus did say "don't cast your pearls before swine".


reply posted on 7-11-2007 @ 08:33 PM by Damien_Hell
reply to post by highfreq


Yes faith is a virtue, its good to have faith. (Actually its impossible to function without faith(I'm not talking about religious faith, just faith in general)) BLIND FAITH though is not a virtue, its stupid, dangerous and is delusional. I have faith that I'm going to do well presenting a project tomorrow because I've worked on it and its well done. I don't have faith that we will mine pluto out of existence by 2300 because there is no evidence or reason to believe that. Just the same with religion no evidence or reason. So belief is in blind faith


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