I'd personally vote for Paul, but Hillary would win. Just a gut feeling that if Hillary was the Dem's nominee, she'd win. People would have that extra incentive to vote because well, that'd be history.

It all depends on who would be crowning the winner. If this was done on mainstream media, public debate, I would bet money that every single major media outlet would deem Hillary the winner, regardless of the content of her answers.

Hillary would give the PC / Political answers that she has been paid to give. Paul would be more likely to give actual, honest answers. In my personal opinion, Paul would be the winner to me. But, the media would deem Hillary the winner and for the millions and millions that didn't actually watch the debate, that would be all that matters.

Men and women who are are righteous in thought and pure in speech never falter!


It has to happen. I'm leaving the country and I'm coming back to vote in the primary. Dedication and persistence is what we owe our beautiful country!

[edit on 5-11-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

Ron Paul!

He is the only one that cant be attacked on his voting record. He dose what he says he is going to do! He expresses his views very well and speaks about what is right for America. Clinton would have no chance head to head with Ron Paul!

Originally posted by totalvigilance

Furthermore, has RP significantly changed his positions since 2006? My money says no.

This is exactly what we admire about Dr. Paul. Not the lies you are apparently quite used to hearing. Actually, since about 1988. Not 2006.

Alright, I admit Hillary is downright evil, a crook, so on and so forth, but at least she doesn't support extreme reactionary viewpoints that could plunge the country into chaos.

Well. It's good to hear that you "admit Hillary is downright evil, a crook"... etc.


But, please explain how the Constitution contains "extreme reactionary viewpoints"?
Especially in view of the "Rule By Fiat" that Queen Hillbillary espouses.
Are you saying that a return to the kind of principles outlined in the Constitution are "extreme reactionary viewpoints" ?
Au contraire, mon amie.

I would say that the Rule By Fiat that Queen Hillbillary has already shown a propensity for ( can you say secret Nationalized Healthcare meetings in violation of the Sunshine Laws by an Attorney?) is far more extreme and reactionary than a return to the Constitution. I would also say she is a felon.

I would rather have a crook in office who's gonna skim a couple billion off the top rather than a misguided ideologue who's going to wreck the works.

America’s revolutionaries Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, et al, also kind of "wrecked the works" don't you think?
Sounds a bit like you like the status quo (Fiat rule, Big gov intrusiveness, totalitarianism, shrinking liberties, 1984 scenario, etc ) and more politicians like hillbillary. All quite acceptable to you, no?

You've come to the right place, my friend...

Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
Men and women who are are righteous in thought and pure in speech never falter!


It has to happen. I'm leaving the country and I'm coming back to vote in the primary. Dedication and persistence is what we owe our beautiful country!

[edit on 5-11-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

Let me be the first to say:
Thank you.
For making the effort. At least it was a beautiful country at one time.
We need many more to make it so again...

You have my permission to totally flame me.

I don't really see where we need his permission to flame assinine comments. It will certainly happen naturally.

If Ron Paul was "debunkable"(whatever that means by the way) the mindless mass media wouldnt be ignoring him, they would be shredding him.

Agreed. They seem to have two tactics. Ignore, or shred. He is too smart to shred, and now, officially too much of a force in the cash raising arena to ignore. So this leaves them little choice but to belittle, and marginalize him.
They do have nice cozy little predetrmined outcomes they like to engineer, and Dr. Paul is not playing along. They will begin their standard muck raking soon, if he doesn't do as they'd like, and go away.
You've got to admire that...