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Topic started on 5-11-2007 @ 12:25 PM by haveblue82

In September Pilots for Truth inerviewed a self proclaimed FDR expert by the name of Dennis Cimino.

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Has anyone else here had questions as to the backgound of Dennis? He claims to have had access to the safe that held the launch keys used to release nuclear weapons. Why would the navy allow a junior enlisted man who's job had nothing to do with nuclear weapons access to such items? Does anyone else have a hard time buying this?

There's his claim that the navy wanted him to come back in as a CWO4, chief warrant officer, to instruct potential naval aviators how to fly. The facts say different. It was not until January 2006 that the navy started a program for chief warrant officer pilots. Prior to that warrant officers were taken from the ranks of CPO's as specialized technical experts, not as IP's. Of course this begs the question why would the navy want someone who has never flown for the navy or proven that he has want it takes to be a naval aviator himself training people to become naval aviators. It is much easier to get a private pilots license, CFI and ATP than it is to become a naval aviator. Many have made it through the initial training only to wash out trying to land on a carrier.

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reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 11:50 AM by haveblue82

I'm suprised that no one seems to be interested in this. I would have thought people would have been at least curious about information calling into question Denis Ciminos claims about his background. Here's another bit of information about him.

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"Navy Combat Systems Specialist (Radar, ECM, UHF/VHF/HF COMMS., GPS, INS, SATNAV)."

How could he have worked on GPS in the 1970's when the system did not exist?

reply posted on 12-11-2007 @ 03:21 PM by Boone 870

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I looked around for a little while and couldn't find any more useful information than what you already posted.

There is a person who has the same name that is a member of Vietnam Veterans against the War, but I'm not sure it's the same person.

reply posted on 13-11-2007 @ 02:26 PM by Caustic Logic

Interesting, thanks. I've heard of an FDR expert they cite but never looked into it. He says the FDR cannot lose more than .5 seconds if I remember correctly. Did you catch which arguments this expert made? If he's of questionable pedigree and using that to make questionable claims, that's further questions. If you can post this before get to digging it up, great. 'Cause I have enough other investigations and stuff going on.

BTW - Pilots 4 911 Truth say the last second of data - 9:37:44 - does not fit the damage of impact - its pitch isn't right, its wing bank, and especially its altitude. This is true. However one point they missed is the last second also has the wrong coordinates - a point about six seconds prior to impact, well over a mile back, where that altitude fits and pitch and bank are irrelevant, having plenty of time to change and fit the impact pattern.
Findings of John Farmer - PDF link

I've seen no good reason this much would be missing due to the crash. One poster here mentioned a crash where the black box stopped I think 20 sec early, but turns out the tail section with FDR fell off before impact - I'd guess about 20 sec earlier.

There still might be an innocent technical reason for this, but I haven't seen it yet, and so it seems at least possibly willfully truncated. For why we don't know - flyover? Sudden course change to the north? A desire to leave us confused and able to see these possibilities? Something else?

reply posted on 19-11-2007 @ 11:05 AM by haveblue82

Originally posted by Caustic Logic
Interesting, thanks. I've heard of an FDR expert they cite but never looked into it. He says the FDR cannot lose more than .5 seconds if I remember correctly. Did you catch which arguments this expert made? If he's of questionable pedigree and using that to make questionable claims, that's further questions. If you can post this before get to digging it up, great. 'Cause I have enough other investigations and stuff going on.

BTW - Pilots 4 911 Truth say the last second of data - 9:37:44 - does not fit the damage of impact - its pitch isn't right, its wing bank, and especially its altitude. This is true. However one point they missed is the last second also has the wrong coordinates - a point about six seconds prior to impact, well over a mile back, where that altitude fits and pitch and bank are irrelevant, having plenty of time to change and fit the impact pattern.
Findings of John Farmer - PDF link

I've seen no good reason this much would be missing due to the crash. One poster here mentioned a crash where the black box stopped I think 20 sec early, but turns out the tail section with FDR fell off before impact - I'd guess about 20 sec earlier.

There still might be an innocent technical reason for this, but I haven't seen it yet, and so it seems at least possibly willfully truncated. For why we don't know - flyover? Sudden course change to the north? A desire to leave us confused and able to see these possibilities? Something else?

Well it seems that the FDR data, radar data and eyewitnesses seem to confirm that Fligth 77 hit the pentagon. There just seem to be way to many holes in the PfT story and one of their experts claims about his past seems to have holes.

reply posted on 19-11-2007 @ 11:10 AM by haveblue82

Originally posted by Boone 870
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I looked around for a little while and couldn't find any more useful information than what you already posted.

There is a person who has the same name that is a member of Vietnam Veterans against the War, but I'm not sure it's the same person.

Yes its the same guy.

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