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Topic started on 5-11-2007 @ 05:08 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Fox News correspondent on his on-air "waterboarding": "a pretty efficient mechanism to get someone to talk and then still have them alive
and healthy within minutes"
mediamatters.org
 On the November 3 edition of Fox News' On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan underwent what he
described as three "phase[s]" of the controversial interrogation technique known as "waterboarding," on camera, concluding that the technique is
"a pretty efficient mechanism to get someone to talk and then still have them alive and healthy within minutes." Harrigan stated that his report on
waterboarding was meant to show viewers "what exactly it is," whether it is "torture," and if "the U.S. [should] use it."
During his demonstration, Harrigan, clad in an orange jumpsuit, was apparently put through three different procedures by three men dressed entirely in
black, complete with black ski masks. (visit the link for the full news article)
Related News Links:
www.commondreams.org
en.wikipedia.org
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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:08 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Even for fox news-this is bloody disgusting IMO.
This channel is actually glorifying torture techniques,used illegally by the US government.
Of course Harrigan can tap the arms of his interrogators whenever he feels scared-not like all the other detainees this happens to.
How low can television sink?
mediamatters.org
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:34 AM by DaRAGE
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Man that is a terrible way of doing things. Torture = a no no in my books.
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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:43 AM by mythatsabigprobe
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I guess all the FoxNews viewers can feel warm and fuzzy about waterboarding now. See it doesn't really hurt.. good ol' Steve's just fine you cry
baby liberals.
How about showing us the real thing where he's stripped naked and dragged at gunpoint, kicking and screaming while being strapped to a board and
defecating all over himself when the terror of drowning gets too much to bear? The CIA's own field agents can only take about 20 seconds of this
before they're crying like little girls, and they KNOW they're not going to die. That should tell you how abhorrent this practice is. 
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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:47 AM by Silcone Synapse
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Well said mythatsabigprobe,
I fully agree-have a star.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 11:53 AM by TeslaandLyne
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The FOX news retirement home must be a reality check of mind blowing proportions.
Imagine.
Not to mention how the guys sleep at night.
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Its just Bush and his media giants telling you reality.
Making you feel guilty when THEY are the guilty ones.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 11:57 AM by BigJoeNYC
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Personally i like using a car battery, and some christmas lights. The lights just make it more fun. These people capture our boys and cut of there
heads, I dont see anyone on here condem that. They'll live.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 11:57 AM by BigJoeNYC
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Personally i like using a car battery, and some christmas lights. The lights just make it more fun. These people capture our boys and cut of there
heads, I dont see anyone on here condem that. They'll live.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:16 PM by Silcone Synapse
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I would condemn them cutting off the heads of anyone,as much as anything else.
My Point is-We are meant to be better than that,more civilized,more righteous.
So if we are-why do we resort to the same kind of methods?
Fighting Terror with Terror?
Will it work-
Whos got the biggest Terror?
Is that what it comes down to?
I hoped we were more advanced...
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:25 PM by BigJoeNYC
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Look..If it will save one American life, do what you gotta do. You have to fight fire with fire. As far as I'm concerned the Genève Convention does
not apply to them in any way. Since 9-11 there were no attacks on US soil if this is the reason I'm fine with that. If the torture is more extreme
I'm fine with that, because I know the that one terrorist would not think twice to run into a US school or store and kill multiple innocent lives.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:26 PM by SaviorComplex
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Oh my...waterboarding, how terrible. It may scare somewhere. What an atrocity.
I applaud the CIA (or whomever is using waterboarding) for using such techniques.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:40 PM by Silcone Synapse
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OK Big Joe and Savior,
I guess it does not seem to be too bad to you.I thought we had higher standards in our "free" world which set us apart from those who would control
through terror,pain and torture.
I thought we were trying to fight against that sort of thing.
I thought we were better than that.
5 of my school friends are dead in the war on terror,fighting for the allies so please do not not think I am some kind of jihadist apologist BTW.
Just one mans point of view.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:47 PM by BigJoeNYC
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Why go into a gun fight with a knife? You wouldn’t stand a chance. Its not playing dirty when that’s how there playing the game.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:53 PM by 123143
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 Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Not to mention how the guys sleep at night. 
They have no trouble sleeping. The people who do this have no conscience. When there are no scruples to get in the way, this kind of thing is a
breeze.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 01:58 PM by Silcone Synapse
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Originally posted by BigJoeNYC
Why go into a gun fight with a knife? You wouldn’t stand a chance. Its not playing dirty when that’s how there playing the game.
I do hear what you say,but we are hardly in that position.
We are the guys with the gun,they are the guys with the knife.
No offence
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:07 PM by SaviorComplex
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I cannot change your opinion if you think scaring someone is one of the worst atrocities in the world. If waterboarding was being used to torture
someone for the sake of torture, I would agree with you. But there is no evidence it is being used to such a way. Nor is it akin to forms of torture
being employed elsewhere in the world, or even to the shenanigans that occured in Abu Ghraib.
Some of us realize the world is not a nice place, and in order to better defend lives and liberty, sometimes nasty people have to do nasty things to
prevent nastier people from doing much, much nastier things.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:09 PM by BigJoeNYC
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We are not in a world where we have to defend ourselves. If we have to defend ourselves its too late. We are in a world where we now have to practice
self preservation. We have to take that step first. Survival of the fittest. This is war not Sunday school, Its not all pretty but necessary.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:11 PM by azzllin
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Two wrongs don't make a right and never will, im all for capturing these people and getting information, im not even against inflicting a little pain
on anyone, just because bush thinks its humane, what a lot of people are failing to remember is not all these people they drag into custody are
guilty, if they where then they wouldnt be releasing them now would they? but as inoccent as they are they still get this treatment.
maybe bush should try it on TV then we can all see what he thinks?
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:15 PM by SaviorComplex
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Originally posted by azzllin
Two wrongs don't make a right and never will, im all for capturing these people and getting information, im not even against inflicting a little pain
on anyone, just because bush thinks its humane, what a lot of people are failing to remember is not all these people they drag into custody are
guilty, if they where then they wouldnt be releasing them now would they? but as inoccent as they are they still get this treatment.
maybe bush should try it on TV then we can all see what he thinks?
Do you like sausage? If so, do you really want to see how it's made?
You are making the assumption this is something that is used on everyone who is brought into the custody. All evidence seems to point that it is used
in extreme circumstances.
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reply posted on 7-12-2007 @ 02:15 PM by Silcone Synapse
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Well,I am aware the world is not a nice place.
But I cannot agree that waterboarding is just scaring people.It is an established form of torture used by many previous regimes that I would have
thought the USA would not wish to emulate.
I must just be old fashioned.
Have you tried being nearly drowned?
I have.I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
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