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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 09:07 AM by Tom Bedlam
Originally posted by hinky
What kind of a fool do you think would actually respond to this in a serious fashion. Anyone who knows anything will not come out and say, "OH, BTW I took the ____ out for a test today. You know better than expected results..."


My reaction exactly - only it was more like "are you [snip] kidding me? This thread has "run away" written all over it"

Well, then the second thing that hit me was that it could be construed as solicitation if someone actually DID answer him - bad for both.

However, I'll answer it sort of tongue-in-cheek:

1. What, if any, secret have you personally uncovered in your lifetime?

If by "uncover" you mean "find out when it's none of my business", maybe two. I really try not to find out other people's stuff through work channels. I used to consider putting stuff together from press releases and other non-classified sources as fair game, at least I did until 2004. Now I don't do that anymore.

2. About what would you like to uncover more?

Actually, as far as "work material" goes, I'd rather uncover less. Heck, there's stuff I worked on that I'd rather not know about. Innocence is a virtue.


3. Where do you suspect big secrets?

In locked filing cabinets. Some are on SIPRnet. But the really good stuff is locked away in a SCIF or secure records facility somewhere.


4. How can these secrets be uncovered?

By breaking into the facility, the SCIF, and the filing cabinets and safes. Only you'd be shot, so it's got that going for it.


5. What could you personally do to help uncover such a secret?

Nothing. Actually, if someone showed up here with the wrong stuff I'd rat him out tout de suite, and I've actually done it to one of the members of ATS, but not for ATS postings, it was from another site he writes for professionally.

edit: I take that back, I've ratted out an ATS member a long time back. He posted that he had opened up some crates he was hauling (he was a truck driver) and was going through some stuff he was supposed to deliver to a certain military base, and was asking for help in identifying his haul.


6. What did you notice about a subject before many others that later turned out to be true?

That the project was a waste of taxpayer's money. That the management was trying to "make their mark" on a weapon system by tacking on useless crap. That they are not as interested in redundancy and safety as they should be.

7. Have you ever noticed something nobody else seems to have noticed yet?

Yes. We're trying to make one now.

8. What are the reasons for keeping something secret?

Because you don't need to know it. Having something up your sleeve isn't very useful if the sleeve is transparent. And in some cases, I light-heartedly hope we don't share it with anyone, and that the development team dies a horrific death, and that a major earthquake destroys the facility and all the files and backups. I know that's not likely. But some things I wish didn't exist, ever.

9. Where can we look next to uncover something big, exciting or frightening?

A really good circus. I like Cirque du Soleil.


10. Who could we ask in order to find out more?

Given their abysmal track record, I'd go to the Los Alamos area and hit the bars. Lube up a sigma-15 guy and he'll probably give you the plans for the next generation of nukes. Sandia, not so much.

[edit on 5-11-2007 by Tom Bedlam]

[edit on 6-11-2007 by elevatedone]


reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:04 PM by kosmicjack
reply to post by SIEGE



Your right...who the hell is going to honestly be interested in finding and sharing truth


I was attempting to answer the above question. But I was replying to the OP at large. I should have been more specific.

Your reply has caused me to amend my post to "most" instead of "90%" - a number I admittedly pulled out of thin air to make a point. However, my assertion still stands.

I think it is supported by the fact that most members post their opinions at large in a thread (as I just did) and don't often "reply" to specific posts (or points), much less concede a point, discuss it in a civil manner (even when they disagree) or express gratitude for a point well- made.

But these observations are not the point of this OP.
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