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'USAF struck Syrian nuclear site'


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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 08:44 AM by neil wilkes


If nukes had been used, minimum fallout or not they would have registered on all sorts of Global Monitoring devices - even the celebrated North Korean "Fizzle Fiasco" registered on seismographs.
You cannot use things like this without some bugger spotting it happening.

Problem #2 is the reported flight configuration:
F-117, F-22 & an F-15?
What a mixed bunch - squadrons generally tend to fly the same planes, not a pick n mix variety.
Propaganda.

Finally.
If the syrians are building nuke stations for enriching Uranium, then they deserve whatever they get. Not that actually making a stack of enriched, fissionable material is the same as being able to make it go critical and maintain that chain reaction before it chokes with all the impurities created.
If it were as easy as enriched material, and a Neutron Gun to jump start the chain reaction, then every tinpot dictatorship there is would already have them.

Twaddle, my firends - pure twaddle.



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 08:45 AM by dawnstar


the way this story came out, with all parties involved keeping quiet until the story had enough force to force them to say something, anything...

who knows, maybe a UFO crashed into the place!

I don't think we will ever know what happened....NO ONE wants us to know!

anyone try searching the web, maybe someone who lives close enough to the place managed to get on line and post some info. But, none of the governments are gonna tell yas the truth I don't think.



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 08:57 AM by BillyTheCat


Originally posted by traderonwallst


Are we really surprised that such a precision attack was carried out by the best Air Force on the planet?

www.jpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Is this the same "Best Air Force in the world" that, with shocking regularity, has managed to shoot up Friendly Forces in every recent operational theatre?

Some would say that your statement is somewhat sweeping?



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 09:20 AM by CharlesMartel


Originally posted by traderonwallst
Read the article!!!!!!!!


It says each was armed with 1 strategic nuclear missle. Planes are not armed with just 1 anything. They were probably loaded to the hill with wwapons, they chose to point the nuclear missle thing out. It also said 1 bomb was dropped between the planes. Where does it say it was nuclear? The site was a nuclear installation, so 1 bomb should do the job.

Jeez!

Stupid does as stupid is told to do!

DAM
23


Read the source article. It says "each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon". The word "missile" is not even in the Jerusalem Post Article!

Since I'm saying check the source, I decided to find a source on Al Jazeera, so I went there and did a search
english.aljazeera.net...

Either Al Jazeera did not include what the Jerusalem Post is reporting in their transcripts

or

the Jerusalem Post got misled

or

the Jerusalem Post lied.

Which goes to show that you can't believe everything you read!

[edit on 3-11-2007 by CharlesMartel]



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 09:27 AM by CharlesMartel





I agree with 99% of what you say.

The 1% I disagree with is "that 99% of the news reported in the Mainstream US News is absolute fact."



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 09:41 AM by CharlesMartel


Originally posted by makeitso
Originally posted by Togetic
Al Jazeera's English website is not reporting this, at least based on my searches of the site. Can anyone else find it?


I gotcha covered big T.

Translated linky thingy.

SO this whole thing is based on an "unnamed businessman"?

"The businessman, who asked not to be identified - in an exclusive statement to the island's Net - that the process was the participation of two strategic bombers vehicle sticking small tactical nuclear bombs, aircraft squadron They were accompanied by Israeli F-15, F-16, took responsibility for control and protection"



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 09:50 AM by Harlequin


reply to post by neil wilkes



it was a kiloton detonation - not a fizzle and enriching uranium? totally allowed under the NPT and inspections by the IAEA (which iran has had btw)



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 12:36 PM by fwombats


Originally posted by COOL HAND
If they nuked the site, where is the fallout from it?


there's many kinds of "nukes", and sounds like you're not very familiar with the effects of anything except what you've seen in 1950s news reels.

en.wikipedia.org...


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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 12:47 PM by Sandman396


Trader,

Originally posted by traderonwallst


Are we really surprised that such a precision attack was carried out by the best Air Force on the planet?


But the article states it was the USAF and IAF not the RAF.

Cheers

S396



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 12:53 PM by Harlequin


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so wheres the fallout then......


ever single above ground detonation , ever , including the 100 ton warheads from the bazooka`s has left fallout.


edit:

www.sonicbomb.com...

that video is of the `little feller 1` test using the bazooka with the warhead set at 18 tons (the W54 warhead is dial-a-yield from 10 to 250 tons equivilent explosive power) see that dust? thats highly radioactive and of course will drift away and land as fallout...

[edit on 3/11/07 by Harlequin]



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 01:33 PM by Clear Thinker


This story seems to incredible to believe. Besides the fact that no fallout whatsoever has been detected. Is it credible to think that ALL the parties kept quiet the fact a nuclear device had been used? If a nuclear device was used, one would think that some one some where would have said something immediately. And if Israel, or the US, would have dropped a nuke Iran would have launched a retaliation within hours.

Also there would have been SOME fallout somewhere. I have not heard of any reports of radiation sickness from anyone let alone any abnormal increase in background radiation.

This is more an example of how shoddy the state of reporting has become in the international media. Whatever happen to that adage of checking your facts twice and then checking them again?



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 01:40 PM by plugandplay


I don't know what is going on with this, The source for this article is "The Jerusalem Post" and not Al-Jezerra.



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 01:52 PM by farmfellow


LOGIC - if nukes had occured Russians would be all over it! Personally, I buy the alternative version that Israeli jets inbound to target found craft ALREADY there, apparently waiting for iaf to show up, and who the IAF ENGAGED thinking they were hostile... the craft did the job with super explosives (conventional) then easily evaded iaf by going straight vertical (not climbing but horizontal displacement!!). Netanyahu is described as saying "you will be stunned at what happened"...then nothing more from him...thinking did he "spill the beans" on that one?

[edit on 3-11-2007 by farmfellow]



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 02:07 PM by robynnee


Are y'all of so low intelligence that the thought that whoever did this, because there was something (maybe in the BBC photos) bombed, is practicing for the big IRAN bombings. It doesn't matter then if it was Israel or the U.S. or the two combined. I can't see the RAF involved, though.
Iran will be bombed it's just a matter when.
RRE



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 02:13 PM by Tom Bedlam


Originally posted by tyranny22
reply to post by Tom Bedlam



But who's going to report the readings? I doubt that Israel or the US is going to do another "deep penetration" to get readings from the site.


It'll eject particulates which you can pick up with an air sampler.

You can spot things you wouldn't believe; they're incredibly sensitive.



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 02:24 PM by BitRaiser


Originally posted by Dr Love
BTW, does it really even matter who carried out the bombing?


It certainly does...
Because whoever did it is guilty of a warcrime.
Er, I mean another warcrime.



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 02:37 PM by bergle


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It could well have been two Spirit B1 bombers with the new mods that allow them to carry the MOABS or the BIg BLU bombs....?
Thjey would be STRATEGIC aircraft....
the fighters are TACTICAL weapons actually....
These MOABs are sufficiently powerful to knock a site likr that pretty flat....20,000lbs or so.....one huge concussion bomb...
These are precision guided weapons and they could easily be what they refer to as missles......
bergle



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 03:08 PM by makeitso


Originally posted by BitRaiser
Originally posted by Dr Love
BTW, does it really even matter who carried out the bombing?


It certainly does...
Because whoever did it is guilty of a warcrime.
Er, I mean another warcrime.


If it was a warcrime, why didn't Syria bring U.N. inspectors to the site as soon as it happened?

Syria? You out there listening? Hello?



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 03:14 PM by pavil


reply to post by BitRaiser



Perhaps you need to read up a little on war crimes. Your definition seems rather loose.

Here's a good article to start with.


news.bbc.co.uk...



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reply posted on 3-11-2007 @ 04:51 PM by jfj123


reply to post by traderonwallst



Using Al-Jazzera as a credible news source is pretty much a joke. I find it improbable that tactical nukes were used for several reasons but most importantly NO RADIATION reported anywhere in the surrounding area's. No radiation means no nuke. Really simple.



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