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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:13 PM by sigung86
reply to post by zorgon


Back iin the early 70s there was a book in circulation by, I believe, an Italian author. However, the title and author name escape me. The whole concept was that the moon is a spaceship. It had numerous close up photos of all kinds of structural references that were taken by camera. It showed various lights, on and off, doors, opened and closed, and one place that I thought was a joke, it showed a large screw (REEEAALLLYYYY LARGE).

I have searched for it all these years, in vain, but it was interesting to say the least.

So maybe, just maybe Spaceship Luna isn't so far fetched.

Beside that, John Lear... Love him or hate him, has never, to my knowledge been caught in a lie.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:17 PM by johnlear
Originally posted by Badge01




I don't mean to be contentious - I'm really curious.

What would disclosure of their being an atmosphere similar to Earth's at 18,000 feet do to the powers? I'm just not seeing an effect.

Are you saying it's just the threat of further disclosures?

IMO, when you think about it, none of the things, bases, atmosphere, reactors is dangerous to the status quo if they leak it out judiciously.




Disclosure that there is a breathable atmosphere on the moon would mean that everything the government has told us and everything they have done since after World War 2 was based on a lie.

The lie goes back at least as far as Rear Admiral Simon Newcomb in Europe in 1870. Probably farther back than that.

A breathable atmosphere on the moon means we lied about the entire space program. Mercury, Gemini. Apollo, Spacelab, all the deaths and money spent was unnecessary because we were already there.

It means the government lied about when we first went to the moon (1962) first went to Mars (1966) all of the mining that has gone on, the technological advances, the Mars program and all the space exploration.

All the secret space programs including the secret space stations. And that would lead to the Direct Energy Weapons that we have in space and that we fabricatred 911 and dropped the World Trade Center with the DEW, killing 3000 of our own citizens to fabricate a war.

There is no way the government could control that kind of damage to themselves. the safest and easiest thing to do would to do what I suggested previously. Bomb ourselves and blame aliens. That way they can say that all the secret stuff was to PROTECT US. And that they needed our help in a time of crises.

Thanks for the post.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:20 PM by 2believeor0
Originally posted by Copernicus
reply to post by ArMaP


Thats good.

Ok, maybe there is a glimmering hope after all...


How I wish!
Previously, someone said the man was fired. Then that changed to transferred, and now we have info that he is retired. I am beginning to wonder who is the real Doc Johnston.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:27 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by zorgon
You could also have posted the rest of the information about the Moon's atmosphere.

Total mass of atmosphere: ~25,000 kg
Surface pressure (night): 3 x 10^-15 bar (2 x 10^-12 torr)
Abundance at surface: 2 x 10^5 particles/cm3




reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:31 PM by ArMaP
reply to post by 2believeor0


Even according to Ken Johnston, NASA did not ordered that the pictures should be destroyed, they ordered 4 of the 5 copies destroyed.

So they would have a copy in that specific location for which Ken Johnston was responsible.


reply to post by sherpa


His name is Johnston, not Johnson.

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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:32 PM by zorgon
"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets, which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth"

"I feel that we need to have a top-level, coordinated program to scientifically collect and analyze data from all over the Earth concerning any type of encounter, and to determine how best to interface with these visitors in a friendly fashion."

"For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists and astronauts. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us."

"Each administration has probably tried to figure out how, with the least embarrassment, they could confess to this whole thing,"


Astronaut Gordon Cooper - told to a United Nations panel in 1985

"I had a good friend at Roswell, a fellow officer. He had to be careful about what he said. But it sure wasn't a weather balloon, like the Air Force cover story. He made it clear to me what crashed was a craft of alien origin, and members of the crew were recovered. - Astronaut Gordon Cooper"


When asked why has the government kept its UFO secrets for so many years?

"It started in World War 2, when the government didn't want people to know about UFO reports in case they panicked," said Cooper. "They would have been fearful it was superior enemy technology that we had no defense against.

"Then it got worse in the Cold War for the same reason.

"So they told one untruth, they had to tell another to cover that one, then another, then another...it just snowballed.

"And right now I'm convinced a lot of very embarrassed government officials are sitting there in Washington trying to figure a way to bring the truth out. They know it's got to come out one day, and I'm sure it will.

"America has a right to know!"


Here is the rest of the speech and interview...

Gordon Cooper

Well I suppose he is just another 'nut case" out to sell a book and get rich...

"Leap of Faith: An Astronaut's Journey in the Unknown"
by Gordon Cooper

Well don't worry he won't get rich on this... but fortunately his story will live on as it made it to print...

Cooper, who piloted the sixth and last flight of the Mercury program and later commanded Gemini 5, died Oct. 4 at his home in Ventura, Calif. He was 77 years old.


NASA

Maybe you book haters should call the news papers and demand that they too share their information for free...


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:41 PM by zorgon
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Astronaut Buzz Aldrin On Apollo 11 UFO Sighting
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Yes there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. And there is some group of people somewhere that may or may not be associated with Government at this point, but certainly were at one time, that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge or not permit it to be widely disseminated.

I cannot answer who are these people. But there is a lot of evidence that points to what I call a clandestine group- people who have some quasi affiliation with Government and certain Government facilities but operate in a very stealth and secret way that is not generally under high level Government control as far as we can tell. From all that I know, yes there has been ET visitation and may continue to be. There have been craft that have been recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And, that there are Earthlings who are utilizing some of this equipment in certain ways.

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell


Read the WHOLE strory here and a note from E Mitchell

Just more 'nut cases' I assume huh?



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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 05:51 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by Nohup


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reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 06:00 PM by 2believeor0
reply to post by zorgon


Just because NASA signed them up does not mean people have to give up their beliefs. If Gordon Cooper or anyone else wants to believe in ETs or sightings of UFOs (apparently he lied about being present when it was someone else altogether), no one can stop him. I am not denying the possibility of ET/UFO existence, merely questioning the lack of good evidence in most cases.

Again, I wish true disclosure would happen. But if it had to happen, it would have by now. There has been plenty of time since the supposed beginning of observations.


reply posted on 1-11-2007 @ 06:01 PM by sherpa
reply to post by ArMaP



Yeah I noticed that I had a phone call in the middle of that and I did not notice in time.
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