Originally posted by zorgon

As to the altitude... it has to still be high as there is no sign of the booster heating up or burning up yet. Same with the 'ice' Its clearly still sharply defined.. no signs of melting

Except that in order for a tank of that mass to disintegrate completely, it'd have to be jettisoned on a trajectory that would ensure maximum exposure to the friction forces created by it's increasing velocity/acceleration through the atmosphere, which would take time.
Which makes sense if you think about the shuttle. It leaves the earth with the same velocity vector of the earth, but with an increased "up" direction, which means that relative to a person standing on Earth, the rocket is going straight up, because it's relative frame of motion is that of the earth's. It's only thrust is in the up (or 'Y') direction.
If you're outside of the Earth's reference frame, however, the shuttle is flung at an angle (theta) from it's launch point, giving it an X direction component as well.

What I'm trying to get at is that if the tank is dropped just before the shuttle leaves the earth's grav pull, it has both the Y direction vector of the initial acceleration of the shuttle, and only a fraction of the "fling" of the X component. This means it is still caught in the earth's grav. pull, but is spun in such a manner that it falls in a slow manner, which slows decent and increases friction.

OK I may be wrong here, but i'm posting it anyway.

The crystal looking object is clearly casting a shadow on the clouds and the external tank isn't. That puts the tank above the crystal object right?

At what height would an object have to be at to cast a shadow on those clouds below it?

The crystal object would have to be within the atmosphere in order to cast that shadow right? The tank doesn't look as if it's started to burn up yet which would mean it's still outside the atmosphere right?

What I'm trying to get at is that crystal object would much bigger than the tank. I doubt there's any kind of space debris that huge. If it's a chunk of ice where and how did it form in space?

I mean you see it come into view very fast then it looks like it speeds down to match the speed of the tank. I don't see ice doing that. Then you have the cameraman moving the camera away pretty quickly when you start to see stuff come into view. You can't ignore how the cameraman did that.

You also hear the girl stop talking when the object comes into view liek it took her by surprise. Go watch the tether incident video and you hear that same thing. There's also another video where a woman is speaking and trying to find the ISS, but she can't cuz there's a mass amount of objects flying everywhere

Sorry, but you can't ignore stuff like this and everyone shouting "OH it's just ice. Nothing to see here" prove that. Until you do, it's considered a UFO. That doesn't mean it's alien, just an object that's unidentified.

I liked the few that said it's a piece of the tank that came off. Nothing on the tank looks remotely like that thing.

I liked the few that said it's a piece of the tank that came off. Nothing on the tank looks remotely like that thing.

I would love to see a complete graphic of the system that holds the booster tank to the shuttle. There would be absolutely no reason NOT to eject that system along with the booster.
Any extraneous equipment causes the possibility of burn up on entry to exponentially increase, look at the little tile flap that exploded the shuttle a few years ago.
something must hold the booster on and that something must be big to withstand the force of thrust. I'd bet everything I have (except my smelly dog) that whatever it is, doesn't come back with the ship.

Just a simple search of "NASA UFO" in LiveLeak is all it takes. I don't know how you can refute those 3-4 videos of ufos in space. Ok, UFOs are real, next.

It has to be some sort of an accumulated and amassed residual liquid propellant from the fuel tank that has been frozen up to a crystalline structure. Sub-space is cold and there is no atmospehric disturbances what-so-ever.

So it is seems natural that an ice crystal structure would become that huge given nothing can disturb it and you also you have to take into account that microgravity would not affect the integrity of such a ]fragile structure.

Also you have to consider if NASA was covering up stuff for the past 50-60 years would you think the confirmation that leads to the disclosure of the existence of ETs or space critters would be released to the public?

Unless this is nothing out of the ordinary and there is no coverup what-so-ever. Which is what this is all about. Nothing.

You know how a forum dedicated to revealing reptilian politcians, doomsday prediction and fake ufo hoaxes would do to a 'normal person?'

This is just one of the effects of watching too much 'Secret Space', 'The 'Disclosure Project', 'Out of the Blue' and 'Sightings' would do to a normal logical thinking of a human being.

There is nothing to be excited about...





[edit on 2-11-2007 by omnicron]

Yes and there are like 4 more videos on LiveLeak that clearly show UFOs in space, meteors and debris as well as their famous ice crystals, do NOT change direction and speed up and down. Also look at the video of the audio recording the the astronauts talking about craft they see it goes back to the 60's even. People use the terms "smoking gun" or "proof", this really is though, I don't think NASA is even going to try and hide this anymore.

[edit on 2-11-2007 by dark_matter06]

I do want to clarify that I believe in UFOs, do believe that there's gov't coverup, do believe that an ET craft crashed at Roswell, etc. but at the same time I believe in a high burden of proof and this video doesn't meet it.

Ummm the only thing about the crystal like object that disturbed me was that it seemed to be spinning uniformly. Could it be possible that the crystal like object was some type of debree sent out when the tank detacted?

yes, nasa should spend valuable time and resources discussing jetsam and various other debris everytime we launch a shuttle... its very important to those who see aliens in every particle of garbage floating around in orbit.

as if there was not enough foolishness holding nasa back from serious space exploration.

aliens have nothing better to do than fly around in orbit to watch a foam covered tin can fall back into the atmosphere... they came all the way from where for that?

The most entertaining stuff to read in this thread is the skeptics grasping at straws to try and explain this...

Wake up people. You know you're going to have to face reality at some point. UFO's have been here forever, and have been covered up since the 1940's.