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Originally posted by watch_the_rocks
Lightglobes work in both the UK and the US, theRiverGoddess, so I don't really think it would be much of an issue slighly modifying a machine you pay $50, 000 for.
So many of these free energy machines turn out to be fake. I can't help but think that this is a hoax.
Motors are never sold outright; a sale/lease agreement gives the person the use of the equipment for 5 years which is prepaid, thereafter a nominal fee is payable monthly to maintain the lease agreement, this monthly fee is normally in the region of 100-600 Euro per month, depending on the size of the unit, this fee will include a maintenance contact .
Originally posted by plumranch
Hi MrdDstrbr,
References or links would be greatly appreciated.
So after the $59kAUD, and after 5 years, you're still bound to them to pay between $155AUD and $940AUD Per Month for contractual continuance.
Originally posted by RogerT:
According to Alan Francour:
"If the magnets are placed in a state of repulsion only against each other in a magnet motor system, I would agree they will lose their magnetism over time. If the magnets in the Perendev magnet motor are always in a state of repulsion only, then this would explain the magnet depletion problem.
However, if the magnets are placed in a working system so as to have repulsion forces on one half cycle and attraction forces on the other half cycle, then the magnets will continue their magnetic field density unchanged as they will realigned themselves."
I could be wrong here, but I think Bearden said that what most electrical engineers do wrong is they have their circuits in loops, so the current flows back around to the magnet and that kills the magnet over time. Supposedly he and Bedini have come up with special circuit configurations to get around that problem. So essentially you can have a dipole that pours out energy from the vacuum indefinitely.
Originally posted by plumranch
An example of projected energy savings is the "ground source heat pump" furnace I am installing to heat my home and shop in winter months. The installation including heat exchange loup will cost about $20,000. However with the high cost of the present fuel, propane, I expect to save over $500 a month. The installation should pay for itself in under 10 years. After that my monthly heating will be about $100 a month at present electricity prices.
Originally posted by NRen2k5
Now, are you talking about dark energy, or zero point energy?
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If you’re talking about zero point, you don’t understand that zero point is the lowest possible energy state in a system. Meaning, you can’t get anything more out of it. Zero point isn’t a real, tangible source of energy. It’s just a name we give to the miniscule amount of energy in a given system at rest that we can’t think of a way to harness.
It’s nice to believe in something, I guess.
But if you want to convince the rest of us, would you mind posting a link to a reputable source? Or at least one not tied to Bearden and Bedini?
reply to post by punkinworks
It stuns me that to this day people still beleive in perpetual motion machines.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
It’s nice to believe in something, I guess.
But if you want to convince the rest of us, would you mind posting a link to a reputable source? Or at least one not tied to Bearden and Bedini?
Well some people will never be convinced until the government tells them it's OK to believe in it, ie it gets shown on TV. BUY ONE NOW.....
There's some decent footage of these devices around the internet, but that won't be enough for some.
Other links of interest:
The Potomac Energy Project
Wang Shum Ho Electricity Generator
Self-Recharging Electric Vehicle
The First Advanced Energy Technology Colloquium, August 20 2007
Originally posted by graysquirrel:
I use to not believed in perpetual motion like a good educated engineer. Until, I discovered the channelized air effect. I realized that it answered a lot of unanswered questions such as how a Toronado really works or how the jet stream keep up its perpetual air flow.
What really stuns me is that when it comes to free energy, a lot of people refuse to even look at experimental evidence.
Originally posted by plumranch:
At the atomic level the atom is in perpetual motion. It is a stable systems with electrons spinning endlessly at quantum levels around the nucleas. What do you suppose keeps that system going? If it obeyed the "laws" of thermodynamics it would collapse.
Customers Not Getting Goods
On Nov. 5, 2007, a source who wishes to be anonymous wrote:
Today I went once again to the criminal investigation department in Munich, asking more details and verify the information I bring to you.
We know of no validation of Mike Brady's products since he came to Europe.
I know personally that the public prosecutor's office in Munich has had 20 customers who did not get any goods after payment. But the public prosecutor's office must stop the investigation because the money was paid to a Swiss company. So those "customers" would be technically considered "investors", with no rights to get anything -- only the risk. The customer payments were thus converted by contract into risk capital.
The public prosecutor's office is watching him very closely. If he makes a small mistake, they will catch him. The same holds true in Switzerland as well.
It looks like Brady has a tough lawyer and some devoted costumers. Presently, there are apparently more than two hundred "investors". At $20,000 each, minimum, that's nearly $4,000,000 Euros.
Originally posted by NRen2k5
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
The Potomac Energy Project
Nice enough site. Nothing to do with free energy, though.
Wang Shum Ho Electricity Generator
Won’t work. Nothing new, either.
The First Advanced Energy Technology Colloquium, August 20 2007
Like your first link. Nice, I guess. But not a demonstration of free energy.
This seems to be a constant with perpetual motion fanatics. They will point at anything they don’t understand and tell you it’s perpetual motion.…