I sort of do think we will ultimately need to bomb Iran. We are short on troops, and can't invade so if it's war I would rather see Iran get taken down then bringing the war to American fronts.

"Domesticated primates [humans], like wild primates, want chiefly an alpha male to lead them. The more closely this figure approximates the primordial archetype—i.e. the meanest-tempered baboon in the herd - the more fervently the other baboons will follow him. This explains the otherwise inexplicable elevation to power of distinctly subhuman types, e.g., Mussolini, Nixon, Hitler, Stalin. The primate logic is “If he's that baaaaaaaad”—in the sense in which baaaaaaaad is used in Black ghetto argot - "he'll scare hell out of competing primate bands."

Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminati Papers, page 134

Originally posted by Shar

I don't know about this. To me bombing Iran would start WW3. I don't see any reason for this at all.

World War 3 has already started. To deny this is to only fool oneself.

Lets consider a hypothetical situation, the pollsters conduct an international poll, just like the one here in the US. It goes something like this:

1. Name the country with the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons.
2. Name the country that is most likely to invade other countries on trumped up charges.
3. Name the country - the only one in history - to have used atomic weapons on another country.
4. Name the country that - keeping 1-3 in mind - needs to be disarmed quickly.

No flames, just food for thought.

[edit on 30-10-2007 by 2believeor0]

Considering the fact that most of the American population is incredibly misinformed and ignorant of simple geography (e.x. the response by the beauty pageant contestant earlier this year), this phantom "27-22%" is probably comprised of people who have mistaken IRAN for IRAQ. Just a thought. In any case, it is undeniable that the media is influencing the population. When I listen to these talking heads on the TV I wanna scream.

Originally posted by degoat87
When I listen to these talking heads on the TV I wanna scream.

I do too... It doesn't matter if they are conservative or ultra liberal, which there certainly is no shortage of , they are sickening to listen to. They parade their OPINIONS around as if it were the gospel...

Go to war with Iran because we "believe" that they are developing ONE nuclear weapon.

Back up Israel when they have like 300 Nuclear Warheads!

Ya, makes complete sense!

I can see the Iranian president now...

"Well, we WEREN'T developing nuclear weapons, but now that you're threatening us with all out war... sounds like a possibility."


I can also see Al-Qaeda saying...

"They weren't helping us out, but now that the US is on their doorstep, they may need a little help... lets go."


In my opinion, anyone who is for a war with Iran needs to have their head checked. Iran offered assistance with the war on terrorism way back, the US refused. Iran gave assistance to the Iraqi civilians by sending engineers to re-construct the power grid... the US took those engineers hostage as "enemy combatants".
Iran requested an open discussion on it's nuclear power plants... the US told them they wouldn't talk unless they dismantled their nuclear weapons... but Iran hasn't got any nuclear weapons to dismantle .

Regardless of Iran's stance on any subject matter, the only thing the US wants from them is war.

Everything could be rainbows and lollipops over there, and the US would still want to bomb the hell out of them.


Simply put, the US wants war. No reasons, no justifications, no good or evil, no glory... just bloodshed. It's like the Bush administration is hungry for blood... They should all be in a mental institution, not running a country.

I get annoyed too when i see newspaper reports of an American football player asking doe they speak English in London? Errrr yes!!! It is after all the Capital City of my Country, England!! Not only that but America inherited the use of the English language when the first people arrived on the Mayflower !!! I do think it is high time people started learning about different countries and cultures and where they are located on the map/globe before bombing them into the stone age!. It might even help world peace (or what's left of it!) if people had a better understanding of the world and more tolerance.
Having said that i DO think the Iranian President is off his rocker big time. No question of that. BUT not ALL Iranians are fanatics. Indeed many ordinary iranians are prisoners in their own country trapped by a corrupt and dangerous regime. There are attempts by some to introduce reforms and introduce a less fundalmentalist Islamic society in Iran. 20 years ago for women not to cover their faces in public would have meant probably their deaths. Now things are much more relaxed. Society in Iran is changing, albiet slowly. So you see things are not black and white as is made to be in the media or by politicians. I have no quarrel with Iran per say, i certaintly do not want to see USA bomb Iran back into the stone age ! Instead of doing that it should be approaching the reformist party in Iran, cultivating relationships with them and give backing to a coup of the present regime. CIA have done this in the past and are more than capable of doing so again given the political backing. Far less bloody than what is being proposed now which which hack off Russia and trigger WW3. There is more than one way to skin a cat as they say !! One final thought..if they can cut a deal with North Korea why can't the same be done with Iran??

All of this back and forth about bombing Iran is useless. Could some one please post the link or video of President Bush where he actually said the United States is going to Bomb Iran?

You folks are arguing over nothing. I don't recall him saying we are going to bomb Iran.

I don't think it is a good idea to do this but, all I see is a lot of finger pointing.

Becker, generally, the discussions here stay civil.. I think that is both a testament to our MODS and the type of people who generally post here as well.