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reply posted on 10-12-2007 @ 04:07 AM by LovingSoul
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Yes I'm angry! I'm angry that the rest of the world keeps looking down their noses at my beautiful, fantastic country. I am a white South African
who would not leave this country for anything, especially to go to America or Europe. "Unloved"? Not at all! I have a wide circle of friends of
all races and have been happily married for over ten years. The "idiot" tag is your personal opinion and I'm sure one which is not held by the
majority, particularly those who actually know me! It seems that being patriotic is frowned upon if you're not being a Patriotic American!
All I can suggest is that you all come to visit this beautiful country and see for yourself. Seth has painted a terrible picture, one that I am not
familiar with.
Back on topic...I believe that if/when WWIII arrives, we're all in BIG trouble and hopefully our nation will stay neutral as discussed in the
brilliant post earlier.
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reply posted on 10-12-2007 @ 06:00 AM by Valorian
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Originally posted by Kr0n0s
reply to post by LovingSoul
A strong nation? I get a big laugh when I read about these tiny, insignificant countries attempting to sound "strong" towards the USA.
Like a tiny ant walking up and saying, im strong and IF we even notice you down there, since your a tiny ant, your voice is so high pitched we cant
hear you.
So we turn on the amplifiers for you, just in case you're saying something important and we hear "im strong and were selling stuff to iran"
What did you say again? "im strong" and we flick you away with a finger..
Worry about youre own criminal country before you worry about my country.
Why dont you do something about the Rape and Murders of the white farmers and their families first, then preach about my country..
...and the mighty shall fall a fall that shall last a 1000 years and never end till the daylight awakens our souls..
Valorian
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reply posted on 10-12-2007 @ 06:12 AM by Valorian
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Originally posted by Cthulwho
There's been a mass exodus of white South Africans to Australia in the past decade, as a result about 1/3 of my friends are 5'9 blonde South African
girls. So if white South Africans need to be evacuated somewhere, they're more than welcome to come to Australia  .
...and they are fantastic :-)
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reply posted on 22-9-2008 @ 04:56 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Hey!
I started reading some of the posts, but they soon degenerated into the usual namecalling from people in other countries trying to paw off their own
guilt on the South African (white) population. Especially the Afrikaner.
Regarding WWIII SA will most certainly be a very important strategic assset for one of the super powers with the ability to push the armageddon
button.
Someone may have mentioned it already, but the big reason why people will want SA is because of the mineral wealth below the ground. The Merensky
reef contains 70% of the known chrome reserves in the world as well as large amounts of PGMs wich are not found so abundantly elsewhere.
Therefore, SA will be a strategic position for mineral reserves for the building of weapons etc. In addition, SA still has some substantial coal
reserves as well as plants which utilise the "coal to petrol" technology developed by the evil previous regime.
Why do you think the US assisted the RSA in the Bush War in Angola? The US didn't want Russia to obtain the minerals in SA. We are a pawn in the
game, guys.
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 03:47 AM by twodee
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Regardless of our new government etc - we are still a highly strategically placed nation with a massive mineral wealth - a huge percentage of the
world gold, platinum, diamonds and uranium are mined here. South Africa also has a political voice that is rather unique worldwide.
Not to carry this thread off-topic to much, but its interesting how Kr0n0s was so sure that South Africa would be wiped off the map by the US in the
case of an armed conflict. - It was this exact attitude that lead to the dire situation in Iraq and the Middle East - let’s be frank, in a nuclear
conflict, nobody would win, least of all the guys without nukes  - but in a conventional urban war - I would not underestimate the "South African
will" - our nation survived 60 years of International pressure, 20 years of armed conflicts throughout Africa. I do not want to debate the ideals
that backed these conflicts - but if you would like to do some research, please check this out: en.wikipedia.org...
This spirit exists here to this day - black, white, coloured or Indian -
Further,
To understand our support of delinquent nations like Iran, N.Korea, Cuba etc - you need to understand the history of the ANC and the support that
those countries gave to them during the Apartheid years. South Africa 'allegedly' supplied Uranium to Iran in 1996 - long before the latest
political mess over there. Kronos might do himself a favor and research the US weapon deals that takes place daily to just about anyone who is willing
to pay.
Interestingly - South Africa is the only country to date that willingly discontinued and decommissioned its Nuclear weapon program. (We did in fact
detonate a nuke in September 1979 over the Indian ocean).
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 05:59 AM by xmotex
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Originally posted by twodee
Interestingly - South Africa is the only country to date that willingly discontinued and decommissioned its Nuclear weapon program. (We did in fact
detonate a nuke in September 1979 over the Indian ocean).
Yeah, this is a little known historical fact - South Africa is indeed the only country (yet) to have developed nuclear weapons and then renounced
them.
Actually in the event of a nuclear war, it would likely be between nations in the northern hemisphere, and South Africa would probably not be seen as
a logical target by either side (unlike Australia, which is strongly aligned with the US and thus might be hit.)
There is a good chance that after WW3, South Africa would emerge as one of the world's new major powers.
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reply posted on 13-12-2008 @ 12:38 PM by twodee
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I suspect that had ATS been available in the early 90's there would be lots of debate about the reasons for the disarmament. I believe that the
previous Apartheid government didn’t want to hand over nuclear weapons to the ANC.
My high school science teacher actually worked on the nuke program and further nuclear technology at Koeberg and Pelindaba- she wouldn’t give us any
details. She was retrenched after 94' and had to become a high school science teacher! Go figure.
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reply posted on 26-6-2009 @ 05:45 PM by swineflue
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nothing would happen no1 give 2 s***s about the place as long as i make money outta it god bless africa
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reply posted on 23-10-2009 @ 10:04 AM by student1990
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hey sethdarke i know exactly how you feel.. well i got out of SA when i was 7. my parents moved to america. yea we are still having trouble to get
citizenship but our lives are so much better. we dont have to worry about getting raped or killed as much as my parents explained living there was. im
glad they made the decision to move me and my siblings to america. im just scared of the U.S rejecting our application, but then i dont think they
would send us to a country thats is in really bad shape would they? i dont want to go back to SA ever again. i"ve lived in america for almost 13
years now and i plan on living here until i die.
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reply posted on 24-10-2009 @ 04:07 PM by Kram09
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Congratulations, you win the Most Ignorant Post of the Year Award.
The OP asked how South Africa fare in a third World War not how incredibly mighty the United States are.
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