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reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 01:58 PM by titorite

reply to post by BlackProjects

Yes, In Austin texas an entire EMS station was shut down because of MRSA and thier were also a few cases in San Antonio last week.

Everyone in the Austin EMS station was infected. The station was dis-infected and it has since been re-opened and is operational.

reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 02:05 PM by Long Lance

reply to post by Tom Bedlam

spot on

www.abovetopsecret.com...

as long as the infection remains localized and superficial, phages should perform quite well. on the long run, these alternative cures will be the only remaining defense against ever more resistant germs.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 02:10 PM by mrsdudara

I put this together a few days ago. I put a thread together with links to all the threads on ATS that have to do with this, as well as one to the CDC that has some good info on it.
Community-Associated (CA)-MRSA, antibiotic resistant staph infection

It is all around here too. It has been quite frustrating. Only some of the schools are educating people on it. The elementary school where my sister works hasnt said a word to anyone. She had not even heard of this before. In the paper, though, it showed that there were 2 kids in her school who were out with it. She had to take one of her kiddos to the Dr. and she asked the Dr. about it. He totaly played it down, saying dont pay any attention to it, it is no big deal. The media is just overexagerating. OO I was so mad. I know that there are antibiotics that help this. What scares me is that people wont go to the Dr. thinking it is no big deal. The other thing that wories me is that on the paper they sent home from our school, it says you are to go to the Dr. asap and get on an antibiotic, then if you are still ill two days later, you are to go back immediatly to get put on another antibiotic. Im sorry, but there are a lot of folks out there who cant just afford to keep going back to the Dr. and buying one antibiotic after another until something works. It is contagious, and from what I understand, this is not like chicken pox where if you have it once you cant get it again. Insurance companies are not even wanting to pay for the flu test anymore, I have a hard time seeing them pay for these tests so you can get on a better antibiotic.

Its the long term affects of this that worry me.

reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 02:45 PM by Tom Bedlam

reply to post by Long Lance

On top of which topical silver solutions knock a lot of superficial skin infections on their little bacterial butts.

It's not as useful if you drink it as it is if you sluice it on the wound, or use silver impregnated dressings.

reply posted on 5-11-2007 @ 05:24 PM by marg6043

reply to post by mrsdudara

I agree, no everybody can afford to visit a doctor because something doesn't look right or you have some fever.

By the time a person without insurance is in the emergency room is because the problems they have are already beyond control.

Sad but this is the state of affairs for many hard working Americans living pay check to pay check.

That is why we may see many already eradicated diseases and new viral infections taking hold once again.

My last visit to the emergency room came to me in a bill for over 3,000 dollars as I read the charges I can not believe what they are charging this days for things you can buy at your local pharmacy.

They even charge for a urine test that I knew they never did because the cup with the sample was sitting on the table next to me until I left.

That one I will inform my insurance about it, because is a reap off.

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 05:03 AM by Long Lance

reply to post by Tom Bedlam

incidentially, more mainstream sources seem to catch on, see

www.medicalnewstoday.com...

the real question is why are they still pumping vancomycin (? iirc ? ) into people with only superficial infections knowing all too well that a resistance will develop sooner rather than later, eventually making it useless for potentially life-threatening cases of systemic infection?

makes you wonder, doesn't it?

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 09:27 AM by mrsdudara

reply to post by marg6043

Exactly, and it is not just people without insurance. I have insurance, but its still $25 anytime one of us needs to see the Dr. Insurance companies have changed a lot in the past 20 years. That 25 bucks only pays for a "visit" with the Dr. quite literaly. If they do anything else it goes under the deductible - out of my pocket. I have 3 kids, even with insurance, there is no way I could afford to send each one of us to the Dr., twice, and a minimum of two perscriptions each.

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 09:54 AM by saltfever

Well my son is in preschool and we got a letter last thursday that a student had it! It didn't worry me to much till last night when my son started running a fever! So now im sitting here waiting for my son and wife to get home from the doctors! This is some scary stuff. Oh and I live in northwest Ohio for all you who are keeping track of where the outbreaks are.

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 11:12 AM by NGC2736

One thing that I would like to pass on here is the danger of this mutating into VRSA. While the HA-MRSA (Hospital Acquired) and the CA-MRSA (Community Acquired) forms of this are bad, the third leg of this is worse.

Vancomycin is the best drug to treat MRSA with. But, if it isn't used long enough to kill it out totally, then the survivors "learn" how to resist it. This is VRSA (Vancomycin Resistant) and it is almost without exception fatal, as I have been informed by our son's doctors.

medlineplus.gov...

Anyone put on Vancomycin, please follow using it till your doctor is SURE you have killed it all.

Edit to add: You'll need to type in VRSA in the search function at this site to get the information on this other form of the infection.

[edit on 6-11-2007 by NGC2736]

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 01:08 PM by 27jd

Just got a letter from my son's school saying a student in his class has it. Now, my son is sick too, but it's his stomach that's bothering him and he doesn't have any sores that I can find, still scary.

reply posted on 6-11-2007 @ 06:56 PM by Zaphod58

reply to post by NGC2736

It's not actually VRSA YET. It IS more resistant, but it's not completely resistant at this point. It's 3-4 times more resistant, but it IS still killed by Vancomycin.

reply posted on 8-11-2007 @ 08:43 AM by titorite

OK so far the list includes, Indiana, Ohio, Tennesse, Texas, georgia, Akansas, and New York.

That is one traveling bug!

reply posted on 8-11-2007 @ 10:14 AM by jpm1602

Ok NGC, now you are really friggin' scaring me. VRSA. Bloody hell. Bring out your dead, 'but it's just a slight lesion' I feel fine! Cures of centuries ago, honey pumices, maggot therapy, etc. I believe will come to the forefront. Big pharma won't like that though.

reply posted on 8-11-2007 @ 01:28 PM by six

Here is the thing...MRSA has been around for a long time. It used to be , for along time, a narsacomial (infection caught in a hospital). The staph bacteria, infact, are on everyone skin. Just part of the natural flora. It is, if caught early, very easy to treat. Usually just involves draining the sore and covering it. Good personal hygene is the best defence. I think you are just see it more now in the news because it is the bug of the month. Having been involved in EMS for 10 years I have seen it quite frequently.

reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 01:26 PM by jpm1602

"six", it's called nosocomial. I appreciate your service to the community. I see this as a clear and present threat alarmingly striking those who 'should' have the best of immunity. Time will tell. I often wonder why the 'blue flue' mass epidemic struck those mainly in their early 20's. You would think it would be mainly in the young, old, infirm.

[edit on 9-11-2007 by jpm1602]

reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 01:51 PM by icybreeze

Originally posted by titorite
OK so far the list includes, Indiana, Ohio, Tennesse, Texas, georgia, Akansas, and New York.

That is one traveling bug!

you can add Louisana and Mississippi to that list. Two people from work had to go home due to this thing. one guy had it all over his groin area and genitals..ouch!

reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 02:04 PM by NGC2736

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by NGC2736

It's not actually VRSA YET. It IS more resistant, but it's not completely resistant at this point. It's 3-4 times more resistant, but it IS still killed by Vancomycin.

Agreed. But each time the strain is successful at resisting the treatment, the stronger it's resistance becomes. Since the mutation/adaptive process is so fast, by human standards, It could become an extremely serious threat in a few years.

reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 05:23 PM by slidebyem

reply to post by NGC2736

The only thing is, if you read that fact sheet:

Vancomycin is an IV drug, usually only given in a hospital. Makes it hard to not finish your dose.

VRSA is resistant to other drugs such as minocycline, et al. Even the fact sheet said that there are other FDA approved drugs that tx it.

The fact of the matter is that culturing results are not obtained in a timely matter, while the pt is waiting for some of the tx the bugs are just multiplying. I remember when there was a MRSA outbreak in the 90s. It's nothing new, just making a little cycle right now.

reply posted on 9-11-2007 @ 05:31 PM by NGC2736

Originally posted by slidebyem
reply to post by NGC2736

The only thing is, if you read that fact sheet:

Vancomycin is an IV drug, usually only given in a hospital. Makes it hard to not finish your dose.

VRSA is resistant to other drugs such as minocycline, et al. Even the fact sheet said that there are other FDA approved drugs that tx it.

The fact of the matter is that culturing results are not obtained in a timely matter, while the pt is waiting for some of the tx the bugs are just multiplying. I remember when there was a MRSA outbreak in the 90s. It's nothing new, just making a little cycle right now.

I must respectfully disagree with Vancomycin being only an IV drug. My son has taken it in pill form, at home. I filled the prescription myself. So there is that possibility.

Yes, culturing results, some of which we are awaiting right this moment, are the bottleneck. And not only is it that you wait before taking this treatment, you wait to see if you got everything killed with the treatment, knowing that if you did not, it may return bigger and meaner than ever.

reply posted on 10-11-2007 @ 11:09 AM by slidebyem

Thanks for the info NCG, who in their right mind would prescribe Vanco po??