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H.R. 1955: Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007




Topic started on 29-10-2007 @ 07:28 AM by johnb


Looks like most of us will soon be able to be held/imprisoned for terrorism

see this link

www.govtrack.us...

One immediate bit I see is below

`(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.

Also takes you folks in the states one step closer to being disarmed "as only a terrorist needs a gun in a safe society"



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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 07:31 AM by Copernicus


I know. We are promoting a alternative belief system designed to change society on this board, so we are clearly all terrorists hating the American way of life and freedom.

If you want a example of some "Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism", look at the 9/11 inside job...the social change coming from that is pretty apparent.


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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 08:43 AM by dave7


control...control...control...control freaks i say...



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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 12:35 PM by titorite


According to this bill my signiture could be defined as terrorism. Creepy. I find it a darn shame that so few seem concerned about such a blantent assault on the rights of the constitution. Barely anyone has batted an eyelash.

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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 12:40 PM by earthman4


My father has spent half his life in prison for his political beliefs. He has never harmed anyone. I live in the USA.
My cousin the cop said:
"Of couse I know there is oppresion in the US, I'm one of the oppressors."



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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 01:21 PM by Copernicus


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Well, nobody is surprised because there is this gradual boiling frog conditioning going on. Can you imagine this law being taken seriously before 9/11? Or even just a few years back?

This gradual conditioning makes people accept whatever the next horrible suggestion is as nothing strange. We can see where this is heading, but we also feel there is nothing we can do to stop it. So we stop caring, which is what they want. Makes us easier to control. And frankly, what can we do, short of a revolution?

They are doing a damn fine job destroying the US while the public have no idea whats happening. When they get killed by a virus or pushed down into a FEMA camp somewhere, they will realize that they no longer live in the US they thought they did.

When they try to protest only to get tazored and thrown in a cell, they will know. But then it will be too late.


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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 01:41 PM by Cuhail


Ya know what bugs me (that makes this whole post my opinion, I guess) is that America nurtures and raises it's young people on violence and mayhem, i.e. Tom and Jerry, Yu-Gi-Oh, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, etc. and trains them through video games and TV, i.e. SOCOM, Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, etc. to be aggressive and ruthless, THEN, after all that multi-media imput, glorifies the violence in YouTube and MySpace via home-made videos of the "girl-fights" and "anti-social" behavior. Then, we focus all the news on how many horrible things happened around the country and how people are so shocked that people can be such monsters!

Don't get me wrong, humans are the most aggressive and violent species on Earth. Violence is expected. But to nurture the ability to BE violent and then show shock at the result is all part of the desensitizing project I believe may be taking place.

T.V. shows are increasingly more focused on sex. That's increasingly apparent. Especially shows geared towards teens. I see shows that clearly exploit it. I also see T.V. as the "Social Medium" indicator.

Then, there are the shows "Cops", "Scariest Police Chases" and "Tales from the Highway Patrol" that push the idea that the cops are trained to always win. They never show the flip-side where, for example, Chicago cops burst into bars, shake down patrons and start handcuffing suspects and then lie on reports as to the details of the incidents. They never will either, it's counterproductive to their message that cops are benevolent justice-seekers.

Advertisements are getting there too. The newest commercial for the Chevy Malibu is a scene where bankrobbers run out of a bank and jump into a competitor's car just as all the cop cars come screeching to a halt all around the bankrobbers car. The robbers have their hands up and are ready to surrender, when, all the officers go running past them and enter the bank, guns drawn. The robbers calmly drive away. "A car you'll notice"... I get it.
Although, I have to admit, I like the new bra commercial with Jennifer Love-Hewwit running around in a bra, but, I'm an adult. Seeing it while kids and their parents are watching TV together around prime-time is kinda dicey and desensitizing us to make sex "Just another thing".

Do I have to go on about Enzyte commercials? My 9-year-old daughter whistles right along with them. Just like I grew up with Empire Carpet's jingle and phone number. (Five-eight-eight, two-three-hundred, EM-PIIIRRE.)

Back on the topic and how it applies to all this.

Ya push violence, strife, sex, drugs, guns, war, espionage, law enforcement, political extremism, crime and everything else we might call "freedom of media", you're going to MAKE people embrace these qualities. Then in order to "Protect" us from such results, they need a bill such as this. To deal with the result...they created.

That's just the T.V.!?!? What about the internet and what we see here? What could all this instant-information inspire in humans?
I gotta stop or I'll go on all day.
All of this is my opinion by the way. My observations and comment.
My $.02
Cuhail



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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 04:06 PM by musselwhite


H.R. 1955 Sponsor
* Rep. Jane Harman [D, CA-36]
H.R. 1955 Co-Sponsors
* Rep. Christopher Carney [D, PA-10]
* Rep. Donna Christensen [D, VI-0]
* Rep. Yvette Clarke [D, NY-11]
* 11 more
* Rep. Charles Dent [R, PA-15]
* Rep. Norman Dicks [D, WA-6]
* Rep. Al Green [D, TX-9]
* Rep. James Langevin [D, RI-2]
* Rep. Zoe Lofgren [D, CA-16]
* Rep. Nita Lowey [D, NY-18]
* Rep. Daniel Lungren [R, CA-3]
* Rep. Ed Perlmutter [D, CO-7]
* Rep. Ted Poe [R, TX-2]
* Rep. Dave Reichert [R, WA-8]
* Rep. Bennie Thompson [D, MS-2]

To prevent homegrown terrorism, and for other purposes.

* Date: October 23, 2007
* Chamber: House
* Number: 993
* Type: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended
* Question: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Pass, as Amended: H R 1955 Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
* Required percentage of 'Aye' votes: 2/3 (66%)
* Ayes: 404 (Democrat: 219; Republican: 185) = (404 American Traitors)
* Nays: 6 (Democrat: 3; Republican: 3) = (6 American Heroes)
* Abstained: 22 (Democrat: 10; Republican: 12) = (22 American Zeros)
* Percentage of 'aye' votes: 93%
* Result: Passed
www.uaff.us...

for a complete list please visit www.uaff.us...

the state of affairs in this country rest upon our shoulders and i am one of those who did not scrutinize every single bill and i certainly failed on my moral obligation to my children and while i was tiptoeing thru the tulips my children are now in la la land.



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