Green Meteorite (??) spotted North of Toronto, page 1
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Topic started on 28-10-2007 @ 10:30 PM by Verbal_Hologram
At approximately 10:45 this evening I was driving south along a countryside road in the town of Bolton (a half hour drive from Toronto). Bolton is in the flight path of Pearson International Airport and at any time a half dozen or so planes can be spotted in the sky. On this particular clear evening I was peering out of my car window trying to count the number of planes in the night sky when something unusal caught my eye..

Just under the moon (at about the same altitude as all the planes were flying) there was a small green flash that transformed into a rather large green ball (or orb) in a matter of seconds and shot straight towards the ground, leaving a green streak behind it. When I first saw the green flash I thought it might of been someone lighting off fireworks but as the shape of the object formed and shot towards the earth, this was clearly not the case. I called my girlfriend and told her about this incident and she asked "could it have been an airplane?", my only response was "Absolutely not! This was definatly some sort of green fireball or Meteorite....except I have never heard of a green meteorite"

I would say that this green meteorite was right over top of either Northern Toronto, the City of Vaughn or Richmond Hill. Also there were either one or two planes flying in the vicinity of this object.

Did anyone else living in this area notice this object?

Has anyone else ever seen a green Meteorite?



(EDIT: I just found this info on wikipedia.
en.wikipedia.org...

I would say that the drawing on the page accurately reflects what I saw this evening)


[edit on 28-10-2007 by Verbal_Hologram]


reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 06:22 AM by Evasius
Once in the early 90's I was in the backyard watching the Perseids with my mom (so it must have been around August 12th), and we weren't really having much luck seeing any meteors. We folded up our lawn chairs and were heading back inside when I turned back one last time and saw a huge fireball in the sky. It was quite a distance away as its motion was barely discernable. We watched as it moved slowly from the right to left slightly on a downward slant; the distant it moved was about the width of my hand at arm's length.

While we watched it, it burned different colors -- it actually started off green, then yellow, and then orangey-red. As first we thought it was a meteor but then came to the conclusion that it must have been space junk on re-entry. It eventually dissipated and left a haze like that after a fireworks show (but it was no firework display, it was seen in 3 states according to the news on the radio the next morning). I never heard an official explanation for what it was.

So what you saw could have been space junk, or possibly a meteor -- I found a few videos that show the Peekskill meteorite of 1992 (which I came across while researching the one I saw). This one moves a lot faster than what I witnessed, however in many of the videos it appears to burn green for a brief time before it completely breaks up. Here's the vid:

Peekskill Fireball:
csep10.phys.utk.edu...

And here's a page with all known eyewitness videos as well as the Wiki site (which mentions it's greenish color):

Video page aquarid.physics.uwo.ca...
Wiki page en.wikipedia.org...

So, evidently they can appear green in some cases.


reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 10:26 PM by Verbal_Hologram


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 12:49 PM by NAMNMeteors
Hello,

I'm a member of the North American Meteor Network (
www.namnmeteors.org... ). It's good to see so many people spotting this fireball (it's only called a meteorite once it hits the ground). Meteors and fireballs happen all the time. A fireball is the same as a meteor except that it is brighter.
Except for a short time in the early Spring there is a meteor shower going on every night of the year. Then with meteors not representing a shower called Sporadics added in, there is quite a good chance to see numerous meteors any night of the year.

Meteors sometime do show color thought as was mentioned due to vision and darkness and to the fact that meteors are only momentary sights - they default to a white color.

One thing that was not mentioned was the speed of the meteor across the sky. Typically meteors move across the sky in approx 2 seconds or less. If this green meteor took longer it may have been a piece of space junk that reentered.

Something else that was mentioned is its possible correlation with Comet Holmes. Unfortunately there is none. At it's closest Comet Holmes is still out beyond the orbit of Mars and at it's furthest it's inside of Jupiters orbit-
ssd.jpl.nasa.gov... . So it's an asteroid belt comet and I doubt that a piece of it made those millions of miles it to the skies over Toronto in such a short time.

The North American Meteor Network collects data for fireballs, and I hope that everyone that saw this one navigates over to our site -
www.namnmeteors.org and click the link to fill out a repoort to add to our database. Thanks in advance.

Kevin

[edit on 30-10-2007 by NAMNMeteors]


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 12:58 PM by disownedsky
reply to post by Verbal_Hologram



About 17 years ago, I saw what I am fairly sure was a green meteor in New Jersey, USA. My geometry was poor, but there was definitely a very bright green streak.

Quite recently I saw an orange fireball as it broke up and flamed out, and had excellent geometry for that one. Meteors can be quite a variety of colors.


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 07:30 PM by C.H.U.D.
Originally posted by Verbal_Hologram
Also CHUD, this fireball did not change colors it remained green for the short period of time it was visible.


Verbal_Hologram,
That is not unusual. The example I gave in my previous post is for a typical bright meteor. Other factors such as angle of entry and composition will also play a part in determining what color the meteor will appear and when. No two meteors will be exactly the same in appearance, even those from the same source, although they may share many of the same characteristics.

One reason why the one you saw remained green might be since it did not penetrate deep enough into the atmosphere to reach the the more Nitrogen rich part before all the material had alabated away. The angle of entry and size of the original meteoroid would play a large part in this. Meteors with very low entry angles (often called "earthgrazers") can skim the outer parts of our atmosphere, and in some cases escape Earth's gravity and fly back out into space. Many of these can appear green for a substantial part of their path, and to a correctly positioned observer, might appear to "shoot down".

That's just one possible scenario, but as I said before, no two meteors are exactly alike, and meteors can display very varied behaviors when it comes to color. As someone else noted earlier, almost any color is possible with a meteor, and in some cases (especially with brighter fireballs) you can see them all! (although I must admit I've never heard of anyone seeing a deep purple meteor!)

Some meteors just stay the same color throughout their flight. This is typical behavior for Geminid meteors for example, which are almost always either slightly yellow in color or have no color at all. Why this is so, is still a mystery as far as I know, although I think there may be a clue in that the source is thought to be an asteroid rather than a comet (the vast majority of known meteor showers are believed to be of cometary origin), which suggests that the composition of the meteoroid plays a large part in how the meteor appears during it's flight through our atmosphere.

Kevin,
Good to have you aboard. Experienced observers are few and far between on these forums, but there are one or two here (that I have run into anyways!). It's hard work trying to answer all the questions concerning meteors and related topics that are posted here, so any assistance is welcome.
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