This is an old story which I haven't found posted here before, but I'm usually wrong, so shame on me in advance.
I'd rather see the workplace and everyone's personal lives to be two seperate things. Just today I logged a complaint about religious music being
played at work and employees emails promoting their faiths.
Do you feel that businesses getting involved in employees spiritually thinking is helpful or a harmful to the employees and the company?
ATS/BTS is made up of such a diverse group of fine individuals. My next question is, would you particapate in company sponsered religious activities
if you do not follow the same beliefs as is being promoted? Would you do so just as an aid to climbing the cooperate latter?
Do you fine that companies promoting religion are just using it as a way to brainwash the average worker?
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Topic started on 28-10-2007 @ 07:42 PM by Sanity Lost
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Religion in the Workplace
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GOD SQUAD. Bottom-rung workers are also getting a sprinkling of the sacred at the workplace. Companies such as Taco Bell (YUM), Pizza Hut, and subsidiaries of Wal-Mart Stores (WMT) are hiring Army-style chaplains who come in any religious flavor requested. Members of these 24-hour God squads visit employees in hospitals, deal with nervous breakdowns, and respond to suicide threats. They'll even say the vows on a worker's wedding day or deliver the eulogy at her funeral.(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 08:17 AM by Sanity Lost
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Would they be able to use this money spent as tax deductions as well?
Has anyone seen any recent stats showing faith in business is good for the employee and/or the business?
i think they think that maybe it would help and with the money they can dump in, why not try.
what do i think? of course i think they are trying to brain wash.
Would they be able to use this money spent as tax deductions as well?
Has anyone seen any recent stats showing faith in business is good for the employee and/or the business?
reply posted on 31-10-2007 @ 01:53 PM by Sanity Lost
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Thank you for your thoughts on this post. The thing about the music at works is we are not allowed to have any to begin with. On the flip side we are not allow to eat at our desk or browse the internet either but this still goes on. I'm guessing this goes on because my department deals with the company's most important clients and most of the employees have been there for at least twenty years. I've only been working there a few months.
As far as the religous music at work well if you are getting the opportunity to listen to what you want to I don't see a real problem with it but yes the emails should be stopped.
Thank you for your thoughts on this post. The thing about the music at works is we are not allowed to have any to begin with. On the flip side we are not allow to eat at our desk or browse the internet either but this still goes on. I'm guessing this goes on because my department deals with the company's most important clients and most of the employees have been there for at least twenty years. I've only been working there a few months.
reply posted on 31-10-2007 @ 03:33 PM by Badge01
Two thoughts on this.
First, I think this could work but ONLY if it came from the workers; grassroots. It probably will not work if it comes down from above, because it smacks of control and manipulation (imo), though it needs to be funded and supported by mgmt.
Second, I've seen people have religion and prayer come into the workplace, but it was really weird the way it happened. Basically it was like a warzone where mgmt and the work was getting very difficult and even lift-threatening and people banded together and said prayers just to get through the day. (Think MASH unit, like in Korea). So if this happens, basically it means things are spiralling out of control.
Think of Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs. If you're still trying to handle emotional needs at work, then things are not going right
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First, I think this could work but ONLY if it came from the workers; grassroots. It probably will not work if it comes down from above, because it smacks of control and manipulation (imo), though it needs to be funded and supported by mgmt.
Second, I've seen people have religion and prayer come into the workplace, but it was really weird the way it happened. Basically it was like a warzone where mgmt and the work was getting very difficult and even lift-threatening and people banded together and said prayers just to get through the day. (Think MASH unit, like in Korea). So if this happens, basically it means things are spiralling out of control.
Think of Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs. If you're still trying to handle emotional needs at work, then things are not going right
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reply posted on 31-10-2007 @ 04:13 PM by Sanity Lost
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I think most of us, regardless of faith, say some sort of pray at work just to get by each day. It's a shame that we have to work at whatever place will hire us as opposed to doing something for pay that we may enjoy.
Thank you for the link to the page on Maslow. One quote of his sits right at home at Top Secret.
I think most of us, regardless of faith, say some sort of pray at work just to get by each day. It's a shame that we have to work at whatever place will hire us as opposed to doing something for pay that we may enjoy.
Thank you for the link to the page on Maslow. One quote of his sits right at home at Top Secret.
Maslow writes the following of self-actualizing people:They embrace the facts and realities of the world (including themselves) rather than denying or avoiding them.
reply posted on 31-10-2007 @ 04:44 PM by Badge01
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Yeah, it's sort of like the old saying 'there are no Atheists in foxholes'.
I'm thinking they definitely pray more at places like NASA when they're launching the Shuttle, for instance. Just a guess, but you get the idea: professions where things seem to sometimes be out of your hands.
I think chanting also helps. It serves to block out the bad 'internal dialog'; again, it's a desperation tactic and, to me, means that things are not going well, whether it's a job you love (like at NASA) or not.
Looking at Maslow, ime, when you're at the top of the pyramid 'Self-Actualization', there's a lot less of 'religion' and reliance on a 'supreme being'; I think people in that stage frequently are in a 'we are god' state of mind. One example might be when you're really playing in an immersion state in a video game, or when you've been up all night programming - anything with full immersion, maybe.
When you're stuck in the 'Belonging' stage and below (especially the 'Safety' level), you might tend to start getting into religion - looking outside one's self for salvation and stuff.
Thanks for the comment.
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Yeah, it's sort of like the old saying 'there are no Atheists in foxholes'.
I'm thinking they definitely pray more at places like NASA when they're launching the Shuttle, for instance. Just a guess, but you get the idea: professions where things seem to sometimes be out of your hands.
I think chanting also helps. It serves to block out the bad 'internal dialog'; again, it's a desperation tactic and, to me, means that things are not going well, whether it's a job you love (like at NASA) or not.
Looking at Maslow, ime, when you're at the top of the pyramid 'Self-Actualization', there's a lot less of 'religion' and reliance on a 'supreme being'; I think people in that stage frequently are in a 'we are god' state of mind. One example might be when you're really playing in an immersion state in a video game, or when you've been up all night programming - anything with full immersion, maybe.
When you're stuck in the 'Belonging' stage and below (especially the 'Safety' level), you might tend to start getting into religion - looking outside one's self for salvation and stuff.
Thanks for the comment.
[edit on 31-10-2007 by Badge01]
reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 10:45 AM by yahn goodey
reply to post by Sanity Lost
my experiences at work have been an unpleasant battle with "superiors" that have thought that they were "priests" of the state religion while harassing me for not being a member of that religion nor my being willing to participate in what they believe is "normal religion"-----to them.
for 35 years while working for the government i kept what to them were viewed as jewish holy days which the system is not set up to accommodate while with the enforced christmas/new years/easter/haloween/sunday rules of the catholic religion---being thought normal.
i would have been very pleased and relieved if the government and their agents had kept their noses out of my religious beliefs but it was not to be--------even after 1 very unpleasant episode where i had to resort to the legal judicial system to get my government "superiors" to back off and stop trying to order me to not keep my religion back in 1981-------the tensions never subsided----a continuous yearly battle of them forgetting that i was not part of their religion while trying to make me participate in theirs with the mandatory catholic idea of when to party at work to honor their "god"----------not Mine------at the moment i am nearing the end of a sabbatical away from that madhouse with my pension due to kick in the end of june------i had a great job except for the incompetent bosses that constantly interfered with me working efficiently in every which way they could dream up to waste tax payers money while frustrating me.
my experiences at work have been an unpleasant battle with "superiors" that have thought that they were "priests" of the state religion while harassing me for not being a member of that religion nor my being willing to participate in what they believe is "normal religion"-----to them.
for 35 years while working for the government i kept what to them were viewed as jewish holy days which the system is not set up to accommodate while with the enforced christmas/new years/easter/haloween/sunday rules of the catholic religion---being thought normal.
i would have been very pleased and relieved if the government and their agents had kept their noses out of my religious beliefs but it was not to be--------even after 1 very unpleasant episode where i had to resort to the legal judicial system to get my government "superiors" to back off and stop trying to order me to not keep my religion back in 1981-------the tensions never subsided----a continuous yearly battle of them forgetting that i was not part of their religion while trying to make me participate in theirs with the mandatory catholic idea of when to party at work to honor their "god"----------not Mine------at the moment i am nearing the end of a sabbatical away from that madhouse with my pension due to kick in the end of june------i had a great job except for the incompetent bosses that constantly interfered with me working efficiently in every which way they could dream up to waste tax payers money while frustrating me.
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