i think good and evil are very relative , humans created that way of tougth about evil and good

It's Leia Organa.. not Morgana...

But.. enough with the nitpicking...

To allude that Star Wars has a hidden agenda is the hight of paranoia.

It is a movie. A FANTASY movie. It's as simple as that. If you look for things to associate with your agenda, you will most likely find them, no matter what agenda you have.

Star Wars is actually an amazing teaching tool, and also something that can spark ones journey to true knowledge. The same can be said for all great movies.

As some have said. Lucas borrowed names from all over.

Endor - place in the Bible

That's just ONE that has not been mentioned.

Does it mean Lucas wanted to go to Endor and speak with the witch as Saul did?

No, he simply thought it would be a cool place to have a bunch of little cute bears running around.

Originally posted by Azazelus

To allude that Star Wars has a hidden agenda is the hight of paranoia.

Nobody here is alluding that star wars has a hidden agenda.

Star Wars is actually an amazing teaching tool, and also something that can spark ones journey to true knowledge.

Exactly.

As a huge Star Wars fan, i find this thread a good read, looking forward to more, im now going to read the cornerstonemag articles..

Originally posted by yahn goodey

cabala/cabbala/cabalism/cabalist/cabalistic/cabalistical=heb. gabbalah-mystical interpretation/a secret scheming faction in a state.websters dictionary.------------in other words a secret underground government.

relax bud. we are not referring to "cabal" but kabbalah, a form of jewish philosophy/mysticism.

anakin=anakim-a giant/giants------they were a terror to the children of israel----numbers 13:22-28 but were driven out of the land by caleb who fought against the "dark side of the force".padme ?possibly padan as found in padan-aram=the plains of mesopotamia. the ancients that rebelled against G-Ds government and followed their satan inspired leader nimrod established babylon in mesopotamia as the capital of their nwo.

ok. thanks for the NWO-interpretation of star wars...which is much more far out there than I went

Interesting post Isreal Regardi and Crowley would often refer to the kabbalah as an all inclusive filing cabnet where anything and everything in existance could be filed away, or attributed too. I think that definition would also include star wars.

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DTA

Star Wars = Modern Mythology.

It takes influence from:

Qigong, Greek Philosophy, Greek Mythology, Roman History, Roman Mythology, Abrahamic religions, Confucianism, Islam, Shintoism, & Taoism.

Lucas himself said that the work of Joseph Campbell directly influenced his work. Especially his book "The Hero with a Thousand Faces".

The Force is nothing but the concept of "Prana" or "Ki/Qi/Chi" in a Sci-Fi setting.

Not to mention there are elements of recent history taking place in the original trilogy. The Empire is nothing more than Nazi Germany in a galactic setting. He even named the soldiers "Stormtroopers". The Imperial uniforms also resemble the Waffen-SS uniforms utilized by the Germans.

One can say that the whole debacle of R2-D2 and C-3PO = Akira Kurosawa's film "The Hidden Fortress".

I've been a huge fan of the Star Wars universe since I can remember. I've read every single book (canon) up to the most recent one in the Legacy Era of the series.

Some of the "parallels" you guys are drawing are simply ludicrous. The names are far simpler.

For example:

Anakin. Resembles a hebrew word that means "Eclipse" which depicts what Anakin's life throughout the series is like. Light, dark, light, dark.

Padme. It means "Lotto Flower". That's what her character is like.

Darth Vader. It sounds like words in German and Dutch that mean "Dark Father".

Luke. Lucas.

The list can go on forever. Within the Star Wars series there are tens of thousands of names for characters and hundreds of thousands of names for items within the universe. There's no doubt that some of them will be SIMILAR to other things - but - to extrapolate that they're being done as a second "hidden" meaning is ludicrous.

George Lucas isn't that good. In fact, he's a terrible director and a pretty bad writer. What he brought to us has been (through 30 years) polished and refined into an expanded universe that trumps what he had to offer. Maybe there, you'll be able to find some true hidden meanings.

(Star Wars Episodes V - VI are my favorite movies of all time, he only directed IV, I, II, & III in the series. I hated the new trilogy and only found IV to be amazing for being groundbreaking.)

Edit: You folks should watch the history channel special: Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed.

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something tells me that Battlefield Earth is somehow connected to Scientology
oh wait yes it is.

star wars has nothing to do with kabbalah exclusively, its a mix of human culture and beliefs which is why its good. good vs evil is a common theme in storytelling and religion/folklore. i dont see how u can connect the two. alot of stories today have similar themes that have a basis in religions or whatever. thats just storytelling. a writer might give a character a name that resonates in his head from anything he thinks is cool whether it bears meaning or not. movies/ books are not meant to be deciphered in that sense its just easier for the writer to borrow a name from a significant thing than to come up with something made up that might seem at the time to be superficial to him. names have to bear meaning only for the writer or creators. if u watch tv shows like Lost u will know what i'm talking about.
plus star wars is the best modern story ever told, and lucas is a great writer/director, he just needs to be challenged.

[edit on 28-10-2007 by DuneKnight]

Originally posted by DuneKnight
star wars has nothing to do with kabbalah exclusively, its a mix of human culture and beliefs which is why its good. good vs evil is a common theme in storytelling and religion/folklore. i dont see how u can connect the two.
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Yeah...you dont see how I can connect the two. Neither do most other posters here. I would bet good money that most of them have never picked up as much as a book on ancient kabbala.

Most people see the obvious threads of a movie but fail to look one or two levels deeper into the abyss. I could do a research paper showing more than a hundred allusions to Kabbala within the 6 movies but I dont have the time. So I wrote up a few hints for kabbalists students themselves.

Alot of you guys could really benefit from auditing a Literature course or two at your local college. Alice in Wonderland is a great story, but I'd be willing to bet some of you think for example that Lewis Carrol is actually talking about Rabbits, Talking Playing Cards, and Walrus though... Or that Dr. Suess was really talking about little creatures called sneetches... Inferences, Satire, Allusion, Personification, things you miss if you just read a book without questioning what it is really about. They don't call them classics for nothing.
I think I remember Lucas himself talking about the connections to jewish mythology, I can't find a link at the moment because a search for Star Wars on google is an information overload, but this isn't some lunatic fringe conspiracy theory here, it's pretty well known.

Great thread!! That's what I like about a good movie or collection of movies. If it is done well or based on primal beliefs, it can and will be interpreted in a myriad of ways!! On the surface, it's a fun and enjoyable movie(s) to watch. Then people will read into whatever they truly believe in or want to believe in. I don't believe anyone is wrong or right.

You can gather 10 theologians in a room and they will all have very different interpretations of the same verse. That's what makes literature and life enjoyable for everyone.

Since everyone has a different educational background as well as life experiences, everything will mean different things to everyone. I believe it's the broadness of one's mind to hear and accept multiple versions of something and the willingness to try to understand their perspective.

Really enjoyable thread, looking to read more.. Oh and I think that far away system and planet were named "Mustafar System," please excuse the spelling for you star wars experts.

My .0000003 cents.