Originally posted by jmilla
To suggest his arrests were staged, would suggest that the conspiracy, which is happening, goes down to the lowly police officers.

That would be true if I had said it was some conspiracy between Alex Jones and the cops. Unless I say that, please don't assume that's what I mean.

What I really meant was he intentionally gets arrested to A) be a drama queen, B) get attention, and C) to portray the police as servants of the "elite".

Are there bad cops? Absolutely.

But what you people don't realize is this:

You said to suggest the arrests were staged would suggest that the conspiracy goes down to the lowly police officers.

But then Alex Jones and his fans want to turn around and say that police officers serve the elite, but that would ALSO suggest that the conspiracy goes down to the lowly police officers.

So which is it? That goes both ways.

Like I said, there are bad cops. But the way Alex Jones talks, there's cops walking around the streets with automatic machine guns beating down people's doors looking for people to shoot and taser.

Another thing you people don't realize is yeah, it looks like the whole police force is bad and is getting worse because we keep hearing about these taser incidents and wrongful death incidents on the news. But is the news going to report a successful arrest where no one gets hurt? Are they going to report a successful drug bust over one gone bad where someone ends up dead?

No, of course they're not. So we only hear about the bad incidents.

So you know what, yeah, we're heading for a police state. Our freedoms are being taken away. But it's not near as bad as Alex Jones and his fans think it is. If Alex Jones and his fans want to prove their point, I'd be interested to see the statistics on wrongful taser and death incidents compared to the reports of justified force or no force at all.

I guarantee you the numbers aren't even close.

Originally posted by jmilla
When you find someone who tells the complete truth and outs the real power behind the throne, let me and everyone else know before they put the person six feet under.

Which has to send a strong message to all of you as to why Alex Jones isn't "six feet under" if people, that know the truth and are doing damage to "them", end up dead.

I've been reading through most of the replies here and have come to the conclusion that people are going to believe what they want to believe. I have seen ENDGAME and thought some points were good, but there is something about his style that irks me like the use of the bullhorn to shout one liners and monologues at buildings. To me that just looks crazy. I'm sure the people in the hotel at the Bilderburg meetings really don't care what he is saying or believes. I think he does that for the camera. Also if the Elite and powerful players are good at what they do then I figure we will already be face down in the dirt before we can say "I need to post this on ATS". As to people on here being "disinformation agents", we really don't like being labeled that. We prefer government licensed information coordinators or GLIC for short.

Well first off I have no idea why you mention FOX News in the manner you do. Most people just bash FOX because they actually report the other side of stories that you will never see on CNN or MSNBC. As I have stated before, I guess anything Right of Left must be Incorrect in certain individuals minds.

Now on the topic of Alex Jones, I have to say I am disappointed. I consider myself an open minded individual, but I also keep one foot firmly planted on the ground. Alex Jones appears to have his head in the clouds with both feet upside down in Space. Everything and Anything is a Conspiracy to this man. I could have a tree blow down in my backyard, and he would tell me that the government used a super-secret Earth Weapon that contains the ability to uproot Maples and Oaks (for some reason Evergreens and Aspens are Immune) , and that I had better watch out because if my house contains the aforementioned vulnerable woods, then the entire frame of the house will collapse if I happen to anger the NWO over their Global Elitist plans to rule the World from their Secret Base on Pluto, through their Mind Control Relay Station on Planet X-Ray Alpha Zulu.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention, the Masons, Knights Templar, Bilderbergs, and Trilateral Commission all worship the devil and smoke C-Notes while plotting a massive attack aimed at taking down Alex Jones and his Web-site with DNS attacks and Super-Secret Viruses from IP Addresses that he has the ability to track straight to the NSA.

Maybe instead of "End the Alex Jones game" this post should be called

"I don't like the Catholic church very much" post.


I agree that Alex Jones can be a bit of a blow hard, but I just don't see him as an agent of the "shadow government".

If he is guilty of anything it is an over inflated sense of self-importance.

"There is no one BLINDER then those who CHOOSE not to see."

-Jesus Christ

Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi

Originally posted by razztek
And so what if he doesn't metion the Vatican or Jesuits? If you actually ask him I'm sure he'll agree that they have a major hand in the control system of the planet.

People have asked him and he has dodged it.

Originally posted by razztek
If you dig deeper, I'm sure you'll find even more groups that have a very large power base that he never mentions.

All roads lead to Rome.

[edit on 10/29/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

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Fair enough. Although dodging doesn't mean he doesn't agree, he's just not saying. Props to you for doing your homework. Great thread.

I take Alex Jones with a grain of salt.Do I feel that he is without an ulterior motive? Most likely not, but then who is? It could be worse he could be wackjob Texx Marrs. I know that Jones is WAY off in his (supposed) understanding of Freemasonry.Some of his interpretation of symbolism is good,some of it isn't.The Conspiracy Theory world is like anything else, you have to sift through the BS to find the gems.

Notice how any time that he has had Jordan Maxwell on he conveniently omits anything that Maxwell says that would discredit the roots of Christianity or Judaism,and show pagan/astrotheological influences.But I don't think that Jones is a bad guy, he serves a purpose, and if he can make it more acceptable for people TO question their surroundings, and not to blindly accept dogma or political spin,then who am I to judge.He has probably done a heck of a lot more to further CT's than most of us here posting on these boards.

I don't care if he makes some money, we do live in a capitalist society where we barter money in exchange for goods or services, and he has done a lot of content for free.His website is what 6 dollars a month?Thats a decent price, considering that you have full feature length documentaries from other filmmakers,and a ton of content and considering that you would pay (at least where I live) 8 dollars to see a movie in a theater I don't view the price as being excessive.I mean think about it, I assume that you hold some type of job, would you go in to work every day for free?I am sure Jones has bills to pay and food to put on his table like anyone else.

Love him or hate him, he does reach a wide audience, and I believe that he does genuinely care about protecting rights.Do I find his end of the world,everyone is a devil worshiper except me and you, and I am not sure about you approach tedius at times?Of course, however he does inform people of legislation aimed to take rights away, etc from a civil liberty standpoint, I think that he is an asset.I don't agree with him theologically, but at the end of the day I think he like all of the rest of us are trying to do what we believe is right.His heart is in the right place, even if his head always isn't, and once in a while he has something good on his site.

It could be worse he could be David Icke, claim he was the son of god on national television, recant, and write about reptillian control of the universe.

o listened to the audio , why would he sit there and lie and make a story like that up. i never liked alex jones but now i know he is full of crap

Originally posted by tha stillz
If you are not a disinfo agent,

Can we just quit with calling me a disinfo agent?

It's getting old and you people know damn well I'm not.

And if you genuinely think so simply because I don't worship your hero like you do, then you all need to go get your heads checked.

Originally posted by tha stillz
why fight these frivolous battles?

I'm not fighting any battles. I'm responding to all of you. If I didn't, I'd be accused of ignoring your posts because I don't have a response.

Originally posted by tha stillz
He (Alex) is an ally.

In your opinion.

You can't prove he's not a puppet of someone. I think that there's reasonable doubt out there to say that, at the VERY LEAST, he needs to do a lot more homework.

Originally posted by tha stillz
you are indeed a disinfo agent.

Yep..I am...

Originally posted by tha stillz
What (detailed) reasons do you want Ron Paul as our leader?

Restoration of freedoms, economy, foreign policy, health care, education, just to name a few.

Originally posted by enigmania
Can you just stop calling Alex Jones a disinfo agent?

I don't believe I've called him one in a while. But since you asked, no, because there's reasonable doubt to assume he is.

The only reason all of you call me one is because you don't agree with me.

Big difference.

Originally posted by Praafit
I dont follow Alex Jones, but I HAVE seen some of his stuff, that bid with the frame work of 9/11 compared to the England bombings really is all FACT!!!

Do you know what I hate?

I hate people who assume they know what a person believes without even taking the time to read a thread.

Since you didn't read the thread, you embarrassed yourself by saying what you just said.

So I'll post it for the seven thousandth time so that you can see it to..

I KNOW the governments are corrupt. I KNOW 7/7 and 9/11 were inside jobs. I KNOW there is a global conspiracy going on. I KNOW our leaders are in it for their own interests. I KNOW they want to enslave humanity.

So really, your whole argument against me is gone now, but I'll respond to your further "points" anyway.

Originally posted by Praafit
second, didn't he broadcast on his radio show the towers were to be attacked a month or two in advance???

Again, further proof you didn't read the thread, or even my entire opening post.

Alex Jones said it in July 2001. William Cooper said it in June 2001. That would tend to mean William Cooper said it first.

I stated this in my opening post. So not only did you not read the thread before you made assumptions about me, you didn't even read the entire opening post.

I can understand not wanting to read 9 pages of posts. But if you're not going to do that, then don't make assumptions that you know could very well be wrong.

Originally posted by Praafit
But why wouldn't you ask a more deserving question like WHY did Dick Cheney's bank account go from just under a million(800,000) to 60 million(60,000,000) in just over 5 years(2000-2005)

As seen throughout the thread, I am insisting there's a Vatican conspiracy in this world. So to think I would think Dick Cheney is innocent is rather dumb.

Originally posted by Praafit
but who are you going to hate more?

You'd know that if you weren't so quick to judge me.

Originally posted by Praafit
Now if YOUR blind to the fact your an idiot right now,

Well, we'll see who looks like the idiot when you read this post, if indeed you read the whole thing.

Originally posted by Praafit
are you really using your common sense right now?

Are you?

I probably believe a lot worse things about this world than you do.

Does that make me more right than you? No, of course not. But it does show you, or should show you, that you implying I'm some FOX News fan boy sitting in front of my TV set drooling over Bill O'Reilly, waving a little flag, and looking up more Bush-Cheney bumper stickers to put on my car, is not only a baseless implication and accusation, but it begs the question as to if you're using your common sense right now.

Originally posted by Praafit
But of course this is just my opinion.

A mis-informed one at that.

Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi

Originally posted by jmilla

But then Alex Jones and his fans want to turn around and say that police officers serve the elite, but that would ALSO suggest that the conspiracy goes down to the lowly police officers.

So which is it? That goes both ways.

Like I said, there are bad cops. But the way Alex Jones talks, there's cops walking around the streets with automatic machine guns beating down people's doors looking for people to shoot and taser.

Another thing you people don't realize is yeah, it looks like the whole police force is bad and is getting worse because we keep hearing about these taser incidents and wrongful death incidents on the news. But is the news going to report a successful arrest where no one gets hurt? Are they going to report a successful drug bust over one gone bad where someone ends up dead?

No, of course they're not. So we only hear about the bad incidents.

So you know what, yeah, we're heading for a police state. Our freedoms are being taken away. But it's not near as bad as Alex Jones and his fans think it is. If Alex Jones and his fans want to prove their point, I'd be interested to see the statistics on wrongful taser and death incidents compared to the reports of justified force or no force at all.

I guarantee you the numbers aren't even close.

Jesus, I wish I didn't go back a page, your really are riding this guys jock strap, how can you compare a investment to war?

Im more than positive Alex Jones's million(exaggerated) isn't funding the NWO or any type of war. What your trying to get across here is the real distortion for truth.

Alex Jones isn't a threat to this world, him selling out isn't a threat to this world, him selling a tape isn't a threat to this world. Why are you so consierned with Alex Jones. Your saying you like this "3rd party" sort of just looking on, so why are you questioning the lesser of evils, just for something to do?

Your obviously seeking attention.... look how many times you responded, but not once do you focus on anyone of the real threats to this world... just resort to taking shots at Alex Jones for trying to make a living. I've too done stuff that to most wouldn't seem like the moral thing to do, but we're raised in a society where the goal is to better ourselves.

Leading to my point again, your hating on a guy who might not be doing the right thing right now, but you completly focus your attention on him, when theres thousands of people who are making a killing of wars, sex, drugs, oil and everything else they can get their grubby hands in on.

This isn't making you that third party you wanted to be.