Originally posted by enigmania
-Jeah hello! What's the point? That's my whole point!

No, your point was what's the point now, and you said, why make him mention conspiracies, as your justification. That's completely off and illogical. You're twisting words.

Originally posted by enigmania
-What about the other thing I said about he might be afraid to put of the christian public if he links to the Vatican.? Seems pretty wise to me, what does it matter? If people just wake up to the fact that their gov is corrupt, we've already come a long way.

He pursues 9/11 conspiracy theories despite some family members of victim's being offended by such things, so what's your point?

Originally posted by enigmania
-This is the kind off backward logic that makes you lose all the credibility you had in my eyes. You have a good day now.

Very nice dodging of the points I made

What about bringing up the FACT that "they" are still in control and have had no damage done to them whatsoever by Alex Jones equals backward logic?

If you know you're wrong or have no counter point, just say so. I'm not going to rub it in your face or anything. I'll respect you the same.

But backing out like that and making up excuses - now you've lost respect.

So you have a good day as well.

[edit on 10/28/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Let me guess Hillary Clinton will be next president. If not it doesn't matter, because all the candidates spawn from the same sesspool.

Wow NovusOrdoMundi, half the posts in this topic are made by you!

Anyway, Alex probably isn't a disinfo agent. He has stated many times on his radio show that he is "not smart";"the average man". He's only human. Once you get past all the yelling and screaming, he has a lot of truthful information to offer.

It's like, a Hershey bar with almonds. After you pick all the almonds out, the Hershey bar doesn't taste half bad. :/

Old AJ is a plant in my opinion. That is not to say what he says is disinformation, but rather selective information designed to steer the movement into a certain direction in a controlled fashion. You are completely right about his arrests. They are all staged publicity stunts. His incursion into Bohemian grove comes to mind right away. Remember how he just didn't happen to get any of his confrontations with security on tape? He was invited in. For all we know that "mock" human sacrifice ceremony could have been totally phony. I seriously doubt their rituals are that corny in reality.

I believe he is gatekeeper not only for the Vatican, but plethora of other important issues, such a TV fakery. He has been knowingly, imo, been covering that up from day one.

I've listened to the Alex Jones show before, and was enlightened by some of it, and annoyed by his voice. I understand getting passionate about what your saying, but I ca only be told to "Wake up, America!" so many times. Buddy, I AM Awake, that why I'm listening to your show! I toss him in the pile of shock jocks, just with a different platform.

I saw here Endgame was out, and went to watch it. I thought it had A FEW good points, but mostly it seemed to be Alex as a "looky-loo" hanging outside the Bilderberg meeting, or whatever the hell it was, and starspotting. (Is that the queen? Yes it is!! Check her off on my bingo list!) And occasionally yelling at some guys window telling them America wont be their slaves! That and reminding the security guards that they had contacted the city and KNEW where the property line was.

I turned it off less than halfway, and decided, while eating my morning Cheerios, That I think the AU, and the NWO deserve a fair shot.

As for this post, while true, it seems pointed at making us rally behind you, against him. But then again much like him, at least its an entertaining read.

After reading through this post and doing research on AJ I think that there is a facet of information many of the people here are missing. If you were the government and you realized that there was a movement to expose the truth, would you start planting disinfo agents to lead the chase astray? You could and I have no doubt that it has been done, but its really only a stop-gap measure.

Firstly you still have this truth movement and even with your agents in place, people will still be getting information from other places. You also run the chance that your agents will be exposed. Maybe you have more but once one agent is found out then it gets easier to identify the others.

What if you used your agents to simply find the leaks and establish which members of the populace seemed to come into the most amounts of confidential information or the most correct theories. Once this person or persons has been found then I would begin feeding him false information. Of course it would have to be couched with real truth so as not to tip the person off. But once this is set up you can have a person who truly believe in the Truth Movement, but has been unknowingly compromised and feed doctored information.

As someone who has a little experience when it comes to matters like this, I think that these practices would be commonplace and much more effective then simply using disinformation. Is Alex Jones a disinformation agent or simply manipulated? Since one of the most important things to a sanctioned disinfo agent is anonymity I would think it unlikely that Alex Jones is one. Whether his sources have been compromised and manipulated is yet to proven but is in my mind much more likely.

We are dealing with an all pervasive big-brother society who has hundreds of schemes at hand for deflecting suspicion. They have their hands in a hundred pies and spin out so much conflicting information from both disinfo agents and manipulated real sources that it is impossible to discern what is real.

These words are no doubt being read and analyzed as I post them, but I still think it is worth it to at least put people here into the frame of mind where they can discern what the real best action for the government is and counter accordingly.

Remember, question everything. Alex Jones could be just another one of us, even though he may think differently. As for the rest of you with inside links or connections, I would advise you to look into them as well. After all, you post on the internet and you will get someones attention. Who knows what new schemes are being implemented to derail our thought processes?

I like the guy, does that mean I'm "blindly following him"?

One thing that gets on my nerves is when people say he's out there jsut to make some money. Yeah he sells videos that he makes, but people also forget to mention that he ALWAYS tells people to get his videos anyway they can. He tells people who buy it to make copies to give out or even put it on the internet. Hasn't he actually put some of the full videos on Google video himself a couple times? If I was just out to make money by selling videos, I wouldn't be telling people to make copies or put it on the internet.

Only thing that bothers me about him is when he shouts with the bull horn. I know that's his trademark thing to do, but I find it annoying when he does that and screams as loud as he can into it. Sometimes he does act as if he's better than others too. Like the round table discussions I've heard him do on Coast to Caost AM. He likes interupting people and that's one thing that bugs me is when someone doesn't let another person talk.

There's plenty of other people who have talked about 9/11 r things like that that have connections. Charlie Sheen came out about what he thinks about 9/11 and isn't he a Bilderberg member or at least has gone to some meetings of theirs?

The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Alex Jones is nothing but the average guy who wants to expose the truth. He started out as a smalltime radio/tv host and has become a popular media figure because people are starting to wake from their slumbers.

I agree with talisman.... the author of this thread smells like disinfo agent to me.

First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
--Mohandas Gandhi

Seems we are on "fight" stage with Alex so not long until we win. Other than this vatican crap Alex talks about freaking everything and even that stuff he has talked about. Yes even zionists. He just says that not one group runs everything.

I don't know man these threads frustrate me. Alex gives all his stuff away man what more can he do? How about you take your efforts and expose the really harmful people because we aren't all suffering because of the Vatican. We are struggling because of the banks and the whole corrupt system. The vatican isn't tazering people everywhere its the police state.

Maybe Vatican run everything there is no doubt the big banks run everything too so where do you start. Stop bitching and expose Vatican yourself and let Alex expose what he wants

This is the worst armchair quarterbacking i've seen on ats in awhile. Your are entitled to your opinion but it goes right up there with Bush lovers or Global warming champions its all misguided and unimportant. The facts he presents are all verifiable explain them away.

[edit on 28-10-2007 by Beefcake]

NOVUS, how shallow of you, despite Jones motives the facts are that much of what he states are facts be they historical or present time. Are you a disinfo agent? it seems you seek to destroy the man rather proving him wrong on the statements he makes which obviously you cannot so you resort to name calling instead which is rather childish.

Much of what he states in his endgame video is actually taking place right now the fact that you choose to disbelieve it does not make Jones a liar or a disinfo agent. Perhaps you would do better in trying to prove him wrong on the points he makes in the video but of course you cannot in reality do this can you be cause the EU does exist, secret groups do exist, the NAU is in its infancy but will be a reality within 20 years, wars are fought for profit and people are already being chipped these are all facts, known facts which makes you a disinfo agent end of.

Right! Let's trust Bush and Cheney. You can. I sleep better knowing Alex Jones is hounding their trail.