Originally posted by XR500Final
You suggest because he rents space on a satellite owned by ABC is akin to saying you work for the NSA because you rent a phone line from them..

You're the second one to make that type of comparison. I do believe, if my memory serves me correctly, Alex Jones has said a similar thing.

Are you guys forming your arguments in ways that he'd say the same words?

You're not really trying to argue like him too, are you?

Originally posted by XR500Final
and a vast majority infact the choking majority of the stuff he reports is Zone 1 - Mainstream Media (SOURCED).

This has also been mentioned. So I'll ask the question again: If this is true, what is the point of him being a news source if he just copies stories from mainstream media?

And if he's adding other "facts", he never mentions where he gets these "facts". He only says he got them from an "anonymous source". That's a joke.

Here, I'll try it: Hey, I got a signed document by Alex Jones saying he's on the CIA's payroll. I got it from an anonymous source. Due to him wishing to remain anonymous, I can't give you the document because his cover would be blown. But rest assured, it's real.

Don't believe it, do you?

So why Alex? Because he's on the radio? So now, whatever he says, it's true?

Talk about biased

Originally posted by XR500Final
Your stating that he is linked to secret groups because like the Bohemian Grove because he was so desperate to expose them he posed as a male prosititute so that he could bring out the dirt on it?

I gotta admit, I didn't know he posed as a male prostitute. I must have missed that part. But thank you very much for telling me that

Originally posted by XR500Final
If you think that is some kind of front, then you probably think the Canadian Border Agents interrogating him for hours because he wanted to cover the Bilderberger meeting was just staged as well...

Provide the footage of this interrogation, please.

Originally posted by XR500Final
Which leaves the documentary he sold for $700 - if that is all the dirt left you have to stick on him hes far FAR ahead of the rest of us.

Nice dodge

Originally posted by XR500Final
well you can put my name firmly behind Alex Jones,

Well you can put my name firmly behind the truth.

I guess we'll be on opposing sides.



[edit on 10/27/07 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Personally I like Alex Jones, which is not to say that I am an Alex Jones disciple. I enjoy his stuff and I think he has his finger on some disturbing trends in the US; the growth of oligarchic power and the drift toward a more intense and uncompromising brand of fascism.

His style and the way he delivers his message puts a lot of people off. They think he is too over the top and hyper. I know people who just can't stand him but my own take on it is I think the seriousness of the current situation demands a screamer like him. He's like a Paul Revere type. Once people are alerted to the warning they can get more information from calmer people elsewhere.

I don't think people should be too concerned about who thought of something first or who is making money off of all this controversy. People can sort that kind of thing out in their jail cells after the big round-up, if it comes to that. If it doesn't come to that it will be because people like Alex Jones busted their brass balls to stop it and a little financial reward will be a cheap price to pay.

You guys are saying it doesn't matter that he sold this guy out, and it doesn't matter who "predicted" 9/11 first...

First of all, if you were in a standoff, clearly some of you would trust Alex Jones to film your house. So how would you feel if he turned around and sold you out? I highly doubt you'd be fine with it. If you are fine with it........

Second of all, all of you Alex Jones people always claim "HE PREDICTED 9/11!", but then when shown that that's false, now it doesn't matter? If he had predicted it first, and William Cooper predicted it second, and kept saying HE was the first one to predict it, you people would be all over Cooper.

Examine the other side of a situation. Put yourself on the other side of a situation. Put yourself in the position of John Gray, or William Cooper, and see how disappointed, pissed off, angry etc you'd be before you jump up to defend Alex Jones, because then, you just sound like a hypocrite, because you know you'd be pissed off if that were the case.

The thing I find interesting, is the 'distancing' Alex Jones and David Icke impose on eachother - it's almost like one can't stand the other. Yet, when you watch Endgame, it's like hearing exactly the same issues David Icke talks about. They are both on the same page. Well, until you get to the Reptilian stuff. Then again, maybe that's all the 'secret history' stuff hidden away in the Vatican that nobody, not even Alex Jones, has access to. It would be a huge shock to humanity and belief systems (including Alex's - who is a Christian - so maybe he's heard about the Vatican stuff but doesn't buy any of it, hence why he doesn't go near it) to know that we interbred with the Annunaki at some stage of our history. There was a documentary on this on the National Geographic channel last night. I couldn't believe it.. a serious documentary discussing such prospects openly in the cold light of day without ridicule. But it's good to see more documentaries like this and Endgame coming to light.

Of course, it shouldn't matter that we have been created, just not the way Catholics would want to believe, hence the Vatican keeping it a secret. It would destroy their power base. That's my take on the Vatican thing anyway.

But back to Alex, I think he's right on the money. Especially as far as the history side goes. While watching Endgame, I thought back to my own history education at school and how we were taught about how the wars took place, but never thought about the puppeteers behind the curtain. We were taught about the Black Hand secret society behind the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand to start the first world war, but not the machinations behind it. Nor were we taught about the financing of both sides of the war machine. Nor were we taught about Nathan Rothchild's market manipulation / deception prior to Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo. We've never been taught to question our history. And the way Alex (and David Icke) lays it out, it's easy to see why. It paints a bleak picture of our true history. I bet we could trace it back into ancient times and reveal that we did indeed have (or were) "helping hands" with the building of the Pyramids of Egypt. That the Nazca Lines really were ancient runways, in an attempt for getting our 'gods' to return. That the ET encounters pictured on Sumerian tablets and dropa stones really did happen, and weren't just symbolic or mythological events - they really did happen, and that's why they were recorded.

Guys like Alex Jones I believe are working to redress the deceptions in history. To set the record straight. I have no problem with him.

[edit on 27-10-2007 by RiotComing]

Originally posted by RiotComing
so maybe he's heard about the Vatican stuff but doesn't buy any of it, hence why he doesn't go near it)

If Alex is who he says he is, and he has the best of intentions, I'd hate to think he won't go near it simply because of his Christian faith. That's bias and ignorance.

Originally posted by talisman
Alex using ABC is a big slap in their face. It is they who get shamed.

And it is they who can shut his radio program down instantly if he were really doing any damage.

Originally posted by talisman
Next, it is hardly believable that Alex Jones is after cheap cash like 700 bucks

Why did he sell the footage?

Originally posted by talisman
He calls out the NO PLANE THEORY ON 9/11 and calls if out for what it truly is. If he truly was disinfo. He would support this theory

Do you have proof that that's what a disinformation agent would do?

Don't you think a smart disinformation agent would do the opposites of what people think a disinformation agent would do to avoid suspicion?

Originally posted by enigmania
He exposes so much of their secret society, just because he doesn't link it to the Vatican he's disinfo?

No, not all. But his connections coupled with his out right lies makes me believe that is so.

Originally posted by enigmania
What would be the gain in that?

To preempt the tactics of the movement that would start shortly after 9/11.

Originally posted by enigmania
If they want the Vatican to stay out of the picture, wouldn't it be better for them to have AJ not saying anything about any conspiracy at all?

No, because if he wasn't mentioning any conspiracy at all, what's the point in having him be a disinformation agent conspiracy theorist?

We wouldn't know who he is if he wasn't mentioning any conspiracy theories, so he'd be useless to them.

Originally posted by enigmania
it doesn't make the truth that he exposes less true.

It does when he tells lies.

Originally posted by enigmania
And maybe he doesn't link things to the Vatican cause he is a christian himself, and maybe he as a person isn't ready for the implications.

That was just mentioned, and as I said before, if that is the case, and he means no ill intent, and he is who he says he is, then that is bias and ignorance to ignore these things simply because of christian faith.

Originally posted by enigmania
how could they possibly gain by that amount of exposure of their society?

Well, let's put it this way..

What damage has been done to them for this "exposure"?

They're still in control, they're still getting their way, they're still passing their laws, they're still having their wars.

The plan is still on track.