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posted on Jun, 12 2008 @ 03:55 PM
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Indeed. 300 replies is so pathetic.

I like your signature, considering you like Alex Jones and all. Irony is a great thing.




posted on Jun, 13 2008 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
This Thread = Epic Fail



Your response = Dishonorable to the name of intelligent debate

Next time try debating on the facts and research rather than close-minded worship of Alex Jones.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 04:19 AM
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Here are the reasons why I like Alex Jones:

1) All of the information he presents is valid and backed up by multiple sources. Most sources are from the government documents themselves.

2) He has something called heart. He does what he does because he believes in the cause. He is one of the most passionate journalists I have ever seen in my life.

3) He does not sell out to corporate interests or to anyone for that matter.

4) His site has grown at an almost exponential rate because of all of these facts.

5) He works very hard and doesn't get deterred because people disagree with him. He has a strong will, doesn't let people push him around, and is a true patriot.


Shall I go on? Or is that enough contribution?



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
1) All of the information he presents is valid


Is that why his "facts" are proved wrong on a regular basis?

What about him calling the owl at Bohemian Grove "Moloch"? Moloch is not an owl, yet he insists it is.


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
2) He has something called heart. He does what he does because he believes in the cause.


And what cause is that? The cause of his corporate masters?


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
3) He does not sell out to corporate interests or to anyone for that matter.


Why does he allow ABC to broadcast his show? That looks like selling out to me.


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
4) His site has grown at an almost exponential rate because of all of these facts.


Are you sure thats why? Can you prove that?


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
5) He works very hard and doesn't get deterred because people disagree with him.


This is the funniest of them all



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 03:02 PM
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Theres only one thing about Alex jones website thats probably true and its this;
"Infowars-THERES A WAR ON FOR YOUR MIND!"
That my friends is probably the few truths if not the ONLY truth about that website.



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:07 PM
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wow.......another PROPAGANDA attack on the truth movement.

you guys sure have put your dis-info into high gear lately.

Alex Rocks...and you don`t.

but go ahead and make a big list of alleged mis-doings by alex
and any other truther for that matter.

I don`t care what Alex`s motives are.

He has opened thousands and mabey millions of eyes.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 05:08 PM
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Someone stated earlier:

This thread=epic failure.

I have to agree with this but at least it's got a pretty good count of responses.

I'm not even going to grace this thread with a lengthy response but I will say this:

I now like Alex Jone even MORE.. (Please don't be a simpleton and confuse this with worship)




In all honestly however, I don't believe Alex is perfect but no one puts a face on corruption and the anti-christ spirit better than he does. Trust me, no amount of ranting and raving is going to make him go away. (Thank God)

Also, Novus, you have said more than once that you were not angry but your actions and inflections illustrate otherwise.. what should I believe.. what you say or your actions?




[edit on 14-6-2008 by ViewFromTheStars]



posted on Jun, 14 2008 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Maya432
wow.......another PROPAGANDA attack on the truth movement.


I love the us vs them mentality that you people have.


Whats even funnier is that you pound Bush in to the ground for using it too.

If you had read the thread, you would know that I support the "truth movement".


Originally posted by ViewFromTheStars
Also, Novus, you have said more than once that you were not angry but your actions and inflections illustrate otherwise


You will have to refresh my mind as to what I am not angry about. As you can see, this thread and most of its replies happened more than 6 months ago.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 02:50 AM
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posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 02:55 AM
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[edit on 6-15-2008 by CPYKOmega]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 02:57 AM
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Ignore him. He is a troll. He is blinded by his own ego to realize the truth. There are many like this on ATS. For the most part I try and ignore them, but I felt this time I really had to say something.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:53 AM
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Its funny how all you people have are insults and assuming anyone who disagrees with you is a part of the "NWO".

You can't simply debate the facts or dispute them. No, all you have are insults. Its very funny.

And no, I'm not a Mason.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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What facts? Of course Alex is not going to be spot on 100% of the time. The Molec thing has nothing to do with the fact that I pointed out that Alex get most of his stories from various news sites and government documents themselves. What you do is exactly what the mainstream media does. Spin things to fit your agenda. Or point out little trivial things which have no significance to the topic at hand.

I'm sorry for insulting you earlier. I meant no disrespect and was just having a rough day. But I still wonder why someone who says they support Ron Paul has a screen name that says "New World Order" registered in the North American Union? And the fact that your avatar says "Stop asking questions or we'll permanently imprison you."

I hope the reasons for this are you are trying to expose the truth and not endorse what the NWO stands for.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 04:39 PM
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easy now... I was referring to to post above mine(i should have quoted)
from justice11.

so please don`t assume i`m against this thread or you.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by CPYKOmega
Of course Alex is not going to be spot on 100% of the time.


I know that. No one is going to be. But when you are confronted about something that you ARE incorrect about, and you are the face of alternative media - FREE media - you should correct your mistakes.

He doesn't.

He has been confronted by people on inaccuracies and has failed to correct those inaccuracies. For the most part they are small inaccuracies, but what does it hurt to correct them? Does it really hurt to say "you know what, I was wrong about" such and such, and move on. Instead, he bitches people out and disconnects them if they call in.

The guy I quoted as a source in my opening post is someone I used to talk to. He was one of those people. He used to have a video up of his phone call in to the AJ show where such a thing happened on his Myspace. I don't know if its still there or not though.

But little things like that just reeks of poor and ego driven journalism on Jones' part.


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
What you do is exactly what the mainstream media does. Spin things to fit your agenda.


Well then maybe I should get a job doing propaganda if you think I'm so good at it. Maybe then I'll have an agenda, because as it stands now, I don't.


Originally posted by CPYKOmega
But I still wonder why someone who says they support Ron Paul has a screen name that says "New World Order" registered in the North American Union? And the fact that your avatar says "Stop asking questions or we'll permanently imprison you."


Latin is one of the official languages of the Vatican (Holy See). If I am not mistaken, the Holy See is the only country that has Latin as its official language.

My beliefs are that the Vatican is involved in alot of what goes on today. My name was never meant to be some sort of educational tool, but it was my very subtle way of saying what I believe, i.e. the Vatican, who speaks Latin, is involved in the "New World Order", which in the case of my name, is written in Latin.

The North American Union thing is a joke. I think its inevitable and in some aspects is already here, so I put that as my location. I don't think there's a person on this site that hasn't heard of the NAU, but if there is, then in a way that is spreading the word. But in no way am I supportive of the NAU or even NAFTA.

My avatar is also a joke. There are many of those pictures on the Internet like that and it says "A message from the Department of Homeland Security" on the bottom. It is meant to be a sarcastic way of spreading the truth about the loss of our freedoms.

My name, location and avatar in no way mean that I support any of it. I would not support Ron Paul and would not actively call out the other candidates if I wanted these things to happen. It would make absolutely no sense even on a spin and propaganda level.

EDIT: Here is the link to the avatar I have - www.cafepress.com...

Here is the link to the website. It has others as well. You'll see that they are just an attempt to educate people while being sarcastic about it - www.cafepress.com...

[edit on 6/15/08 by NovusOrdoMundi]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 08:01 PM
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Alright thanks for clearing that up. Sometimes I get carried away and take things too seriously.

Alex has admitted he was wrong at times. I have heard him say so on his radio show. And after listening to his last broadcast my point that he has nothing but heart and courage is verified.

He explained how the Bilderbergs have started to threaten his family saying they would murder them. He was literally in tears. I doubt someone who has corporate interests (according to you) would do this sort of thing on air.

The truth of the matter is he puts his neck out exposing the truth no matter what the cost. They were also talking about how a fellow truther received a death threat from Michael Reagan a neocon radio host. This is on ATS as well .

I don't see why people would continue to do what they do after receiving death threats if, according to your thread, its all a game.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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I think the type of information that he gives out should be treated as a launching pad for people to get ideas from and do their own research.

But some follow him like a religion, never questioning what he says, and always quick to jump on anyone who disagrees.

Its alot like people who follow FOX News the same way.

As for the Bilderberg death threats - they don't need to threaten him. If they want him dead, it'll get done. You and I both know that.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 10:51 PM
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Yea I agree that he has a lot of people who blindly follow him. People should make up their own minds. Blindlessly following someone never does any good.

I think the fact that he has so much passion in the way he presents himself is why he gets so much response.



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:18 PM
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As with ANY source of information, the burden of interpretation and processing the information lies with the listener/reader. in other words, us. and in this day and age, with the sheer volume of information and disinformation and discussion and opinion and mistrust, that's not getting any easier to do.

i have to ask the OP. why boycott jones or any of the other sources of information? a case equally as strong can be made against ANY of them. most contain propoganda, disinformation, and some truth. it's our job to figure out what's what.

the answer isn't to cut out, ignore, or get rid of anyone you mistrust. the answer is to come into it aware and informed and really think about what makes sense and what doesn't and the reasons for all of it.

you don't discard valuable information, no matter how bogus you think it is, it is still useful, if only to glean the inner workings of those you mistrust...to keep and eye on them.

you don't protect your children from the world...you teach them how to deal with what's out there.

what's to be so very afraid of?

[edit on 15-6-2008 by ~Lucidity]

[edit on 15-6-2008 by ~Lucidity]



posted on Jun, 15 2008 @ 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
i have to ask the OP. why boycott jones or any of the other sources of information? a case equally as strong can be made against ANY of them. most contain propoganda, disinformation, and some truth. it's our job to figure out what's what.

the answer isn't to cut out, ignore, or get rid of anyone you mistrust. the answer is to come into it aware and informed and really think about what makes sense and what doesn't and the reasons for all of it.


The only response I have to that is I agree.

My opinions change. Especially in 8 months time since I first wrote the opening post. Although my overall opinion on Jones remains intact, I would have worded that post differently now. Including getting rid of the "Boycott Alex Jones" thing.

Unfortunately the editing time limit has long since passed.

But I agree with you. I have nothing else to say but that.



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