What about a raid on Area 51 so we can know exactly what is there?

Just RV yourself in there (remote view).

I try, I really do, but I get distracted by the girls locker room at UNLV...

Ignoring the fact that people would be killed to satisfy some bozos curiosity, and ignoring the fact that Congress and the White House fund this place every year,

It's a really big place.

The interesting stuff is right in the middle.

And there is an Air Force base right next door. Two, in fact. While you are trying to get out clouds of aircraft would be running you down. Really really really fast airplanes with guns out the wazoo. If you did learn anything interesting you wouldn't live long enough to tell.

If you stick around long enough to find something truly interesting you will be there way too long. If you leave before you find anything truly interesting you wasted your time. You can't win.

here is what would happen they would lock down facility and send all data to offsite locations. and if it look like they base would be completely overrun they would set off demolition nuke can you say BOOOOM!

Originally posted by Researcher

Just RV yourself in there (remote view).

I try, I really do, but I get distracted by the girls locker room at UNLV...

Ignoring the fact that people would be killed to satisfy some bozos curiosity, and ignoring the fact that Congress and the White House fund this place every year,

It's a really big place.

The interesting stuff is right in the middle.

And there is an Air Force base right next door. Two, in fact. While you are trying to get out clouds of aircraft would be running you down. Really really really fast airplanes with guns out the wazoo. If you did learn anything interesting you wouldn't live long enough to tell.

If you stick around long enough to find something truly interesting you will be there way too long. If you leave before you find anything truly interesting you wasted your time. You can't win.

How do you do remote view?

reply to post by jca2005


Start reading about it here:

en.wikipedia.org...

Then learn how to utilize your Psi Energy

I would start with learning how to use your Sub-Conscious because its like a bottomless well of energy. And it helps too.

www.psipog.net...

Then go to RV'ing

www.psipog.net...

What i have just posted is just stuff to get you started. If anyone hear acutally knows what their talking about when its comes to Psi-related things, correct me at all costs! I have been dabbling in this sort of thing to become more "one" with everything and have a fuller sense of life.

This is just my take on it. Look for yourself to find the answers.

Originally posted by uberarcanist
reply to post by apex

 

Assuming, of course, A51 doesn't *already* have defenses against MAVs.

Well if you made them small enough, they'd be hard to hit, plus if they were small enough, they'd be hard to detect. The problem would be minimizing their heat and sound output. Seeing as some places are trying to design air vehicles as small as flies etc, must be a good way to get into somewhere.

reply to post by AncientVoid


Plausable Deniability....

I have a better idea. How about you stand at the "front gate" and put a pistol to your head then pull the trigger. It would be alot less painless. If you managed to actually get anywhere near it they would more than likely capture you then drill you for an explanation as to why you tried to get in. Hey they might even offer you a job if you managed to actually make it past all of the security.

i like the tunnel idea that one guy said, lets just dig a underground tunnel and crawl in and if that dosent work well we can get a big fake hollow rock and slowly crawl into the base

i would love to see the camo dudes when the sensor goes off around the perimetier and all they see is a rock lmao

Originally posted by snobird
i like the tunnel idea that one guy said, lets just dig a underground tunnel and crawl in and if that dosent work well we can get a big fake hollow rock and slowly crawl into the base

i would love to see the camo dudes when the sensor goes off around the perimetier and all they see is a rock lmao

Lol, great idea.

They might have people guarding the actual area that can cloak themselves.

The best idea, and the one that works is going to be from the outside in. Get a career (not a job) in the industry and work your way into it. I -almost- got to go on base for a highly technical aerospace coating project I was working on, however at the last minute field testing was moved to another location that had better support facilities suited to the tasks we had to do. Damn, just missed it, lol....

But if a smhoo like myself can come that close....well then the right path is to be involved in industry.

That being said, a friend and colleague of mine actually did go on base, and stayed out there for a week on base. He was out there during 9/11. Imagine, spending that day at a secret air base in the middle of nowhere, lol. I asked all sorts of questions about it, but unfortunately he said it was not unlike the tons of other bases we have been on. Except is was more boring (less to do in downtime...can't really run into town), way too hot outside and the cafeteria wasn't staffed by an alien. Matter of fact, he said a couple of guys he was working with often joked about aliens and ufo's. He said it was like a running joke around there because it is so absurd and in reality the work they do out there is mostly pretty mundane believe it or not.

He said that once on base there was less security there than some of the other bases that we have been on together. Less security in the form of both visible personnel and hardware (i.e. fancy rfid keys, fingerprint scanners...etc)

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I agree with throbber on this one. The idea is absolutely insane. You'd have to accept the fact you are going to die going into it. No uncertain terms... you would most certainly die. No ifs, ands, buts, or maybes, you would die. Even if the slaughter of many people at Area 51 hit the news somehow, and the public was outraged it would be swept under the rug. The military would come out and say that the individuals attempted to infiltrate a top secret military base were shot because they represented a threat to national security. The sheep would accept it, the problem would disappear, and you would be dead. Six feet under with absolutely nothing gained in this folly.

Originally posted by enjoies05
You want to kill people, innocent people, with families, to try and get inside a secret base? What is the matter with you? They aren't robots circling Area 51 looking for people trying to enter. They are people, with family and possibly children. You wouldn't care about leaving a child without a parent just so you could try to get in a base?

Reptilians probably are guarding the base and are living inside the base.

I remember reading somthing like this in a book a few years ago. I cant remember the exact title, but it had "Dreamland" in it. But the passage went something like this. The author siad that he beleves that about 20 people on dirt bike could very easly overwhelm the cameo dudes, you have to remember that Nellis AFB is only a few minutes away, and you would have to deal with them.

Personaly, I really dont care whats at Area 51. Dont get me wrong, I would kill for a chance to go there and see everything at the base, but Im not like "WE MUST KNOW WHATS THERE!!!". Now with that said, I dont think its right for the gov. to burn toxic waste there and not help the people exposed to it, but other than that they can have there secrets.

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Thanks for backing me up, but i was kinda hoping someone would take me up on a few of the points i made, specifically how you would be hopelessly out-gunned technologically.

One thing i'm thinking about is how i said you 'could' try to tunnel your way in, but not by hand of course - i'm suggesting we use some kind of machine to do it.

I doubt it would be undetectable though, and that's really the biggest problem - if you're good enough to slip in without arousing suspicion (how you'd do that is anybody's guess) you'd need to find out how to get into the underground bunker.

But at least you wouldn't be worrying about the aircraft and military response to a more conspicuous attack, and you'd have time to actually find out how to open the damn doors.

So, here it is;


Forced Entry needs to be done underground using machinery (perhaps it would be possible to fit some sort of tunnel boring equipment onto an Armoured personel carrier or something, and then bring in more after the entry proceedure is complete) to avoid aerial bombardment - this way you also avoid any security measures they have top-side (which, incidently, will stop any rapid-response from aforesaid topside as they disengage the security).

I guess by doing things this way you'd have maybe 15 minutes to get in, grab some computer hardware (don't try and take off with alien/advanced technology for god's sake, they'd go ape# and probably nuke everyone) and blow the place up when you exit through the same tunnel you used to get in.

F###... it's like breaking into an underground vault, okay?



[edit on 31-10-2007 by Throbber]

SUICIDE. That is all an attack on Groom lake would be. Don't you think they would have covered every form and method of entry in their security plan?

Get a george bush look alike to take us in an order to see everything when George bush is off on some private holiday.

WoW!!!
The OP has obviously never been near Nellis.
Heres a few flaws in your plan. First, airspace is restricted, nothing unauthorised flies anywhere near without a rapid response and F16 escort.
Second---it is flat and mostly empty all around the perimeter fence, and you can bee seen 30 miles out with a pair of binoculars. Third, especially around sensitive areas, there are sensors---many types, seismic and infra-red to name just a couple, that can not only tell the difference between a jack rabbit and a coyote, but also exactly where they are. 4th. just about everything interesting is underground, so, do you have the door or elevator codes of the day?
5th. Look out your front door----see that black van on the corner?

Originally posted by gotrox
WoW!!!
The OP has obviously never been near Nellis.
Heres a few flaws in your plan. First, airspace is restricted, nothing unauthorised flies anywhere near without a rapid response and F16 escort.
Second---it is flat and mostly empty all around the perimeter fence, and you can bee seen 30 miles out with a pair of binoculars. Third, especially around sensitive areas, there are sensors---many types, seismic and infra-red to name just a couple, that can not only tell the difference between a jack rabbit and a coyote, but also exactly where they are. 4th. just about everything interesting is underground, so, do you have the door or elevator codes of the day?
5th. Look out your front door----see that black van on the corner?

Exactly. They probably also have the surrounding areas laced with some form of anti-personal weapons. You would more than likely become a nice pink smear with only a few teeth left to identify you.

I have a feeling that some of us would be severely disappointed if we ever found out what REALLY goes on in Area 51.
There is no doubt some top secret military projects there that would WOW just about anybody but for those of us (yes me to) that really want to believe that there are UFO's and aliens floating in tanks 50 floors down, I just having a feeling that we would be setting ourselves up for a HUGE let down