Journalist Leslie Kean wins lawsuit with NASA to disclose Kecksburg!, page 1
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reply posted on 28-10-2007 @ 12:48 AM by rohnds
I still believe that what came down in Kecksburg is nothing more than Kosmos 96.

Almost all witness describe the object as an "acorn".

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The behavior of NASA and the military is also very similar to Operation Moon Dust mission which indicates the possibility of Kosmos 96 as the culprit.

Leslie Kean was informed by NASA chief scientist for orbital debris, Nicholas L. Johnson, that this object did not match any known satellites. This is easy to explain. His data is for the booster (not shaped like an acorn) and not the capsule (again shaped like an acorn). This is logical assumption since it is booster that was expected to return earth while capsule was destined for Venus.

According to "Handbook of Soviet Lunar and Planetary Exploration", Kosmos 96 exploded during during orbital restart resulting in 8 different pieces. What might have come down in Kecksburg is piece of the spacecraft.

These are my finding and many may not agree with this. Anyone is welcome to counter my argument. As a member of APRO and UFO researcher for the last 16 years, I learned that you must first dismiss any possible earthly explanation before declaring it as UFO incident.

Rohn
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reply posted on 28-10-2007 @ 08:56 AM by anhinga
Been researching the case and there is cause for alarm personally. The Freedom/Info request took 4 years to be returned to the investigator. Also, there are numerous instances of requests being turned down. Here's the info from the gov site:

• it falls into one of the exemption categories
• the request is considered vexatious
• the required fee is not paid within three months


So, in researching those being turned down, I came across a lot of cases, some even pretty pointless, local corruption in a killing of a family's son is one for example. Personally, this might seem like a "leaked" case on purpose.



That's an image of the town's mock-up of the thing that crashed. Here's some info on the local's call, witnesses accounts, first and foremost:


The object changed direction along it's flight path, and made what appeared to be a slow descent as it fell into the woods and impacted. We now know that after the object fell that afternoon around 4:47 P.M., a number of individuals independently headed for the woods to look for whatever had fallen, and came across the strange device. Later a search team of volunteer

Several witnesses who were independently interviewed, described observing down in the wooded ravine, a large metallic acorn shaped object, with odd hieroglyphic symbols on the back end or raised ring section of the device. The entire object appeared to be one solid piece of metal, comprised of an off gold color. The device appeared seamless, and without rivets.

www.stangordon.com...


Well, I am certainly not convinced from the gov't old story of "meteor" or any of these satellite theories. Someone in another post brings up weapons testing, which for me, is out-there but the most legit of any, the thing moved in the sky, people saw that, maybe something else.

Does anyone have any info on this researcher? Writing a book, have a website? Glyphics are my case for alarm and the amount of local/national news coverage this is getting.


WHJB office manager Mabel Mazza described one of the pictures: "It was very dark and it was with a lot of trees around and everything. And I don't know how far away from the site he was. But I did see a picture of a sort of a cone-like thing. It's the only time I ever saw it."

In the following weeks, Murphy became enveloped with the incident and wrote a radio documentary called Object in the Woods, featuring his experiences and interviews he had conducted that night. Shortly before the documentary would've aired, he received an unexpected visit at the station from two men in black suits identifying themselves as government officials.

They requested to speak with him in a back room behind closed doors. The meeting lasted about 30 minutes. A WHJB employee, Linda Foschia, recalled the men had confiscated some of Murphy's audio tapes from that night, and that no one knows what happened to the remaining photographs.

A week after the visit, an agitated Murphy aired a censored version of the documentary, which he claimed in its introduction had to be edited due to some interviewees requesting their statements be removed from the broadcast in fear of getting in trouble with the police and Army.

en.wikipedia.org...


Here's the 40 pages / PDF that was released in 1996.
www.ufocasebook.com...

Then, there's a 2005 instance of NASA saying it's the Russian's satellite. This FoIR was brought up by a Sci-Fi channel personnel -- COULD ATS get an interview w/ them to not have to wait for tv shows or books, magazine articles?

This is not a "closed case" IMO.

edit: Here's some info on the researcher:

Leslie Kean, Research Director of the Coalition for Freedom of Information (CFI), a new, high profile organization based in Washington, DC that hopes to reveal the truth about what our government knows about UFOs. Leslie is a free-lance reporter and talk show host of the Pacifica Foundation public radio station in the San Francisco Bay Area.


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reply posted on 28-10-2007 @ 01:50 PM by Access Denied
Originally posted by rohnds
I still believe that what came down in Kecksburg is nothing more than Kosmos 96.

Almost all witness describe the object as an "acorn".



The behavior of NASA and the military is also very similar to Operation Moon Dust mission which indicates the possibility of Kosmos 96 as the culprit.

Yep, the Government starts acting a little funny when the enemy’s hardware crashes in their back yard. Thanks for posting that picture. That makes the connection between the “acorn” shape and the probe pretty obvious.

Funny how ten people can see the same thing and describe it ten totally different ways isn’t it? The interesting thing about this case is the skeptics have always been divided down the middle, some think it was a meteor and some think it was Kosmos 96. The meteor camp believes nothing was recovered but that was before NASA admitted in 2005 that they were given a sample by the military to analyze (and for obvious political reasons not allowed to talk about it). I’ve always wondered if what really happened was a meteor crashed into the booster (what are the odds? lol) and some people saw the meteor and others saw the probe and both camps were right.

Originally posted by rohnds
As a member of APRO and UFO researcher for the last 16 years, I learned that you must first dismiss any possible earthly explanation before declaring it as UFO incident.

Sage advice.


reply posted on 28-10-2007 @ 05:58 PM by lost_shaman
Originally posted by rohnds
Kosmos 96 was Venus bound and used a Venera 3MV-4. The photo I inserted was Soyuz TMA-7.
Matter of fact capsule of 3MV-4 look more like an acorn than the TMA-7.



Rohn


That is a photo of Venera 8/Kosmos 482 that sucessfully landed on the suface of Venus in 1972. That's much closer to Venera 4/Kosmos 96 but it's still not Venera 4/Kosmos 96.
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