Just a comment that the Mars pictures seem to be very much like the recent war in Iraq. Everyone (with the media) got to be in the war. And with the Mars photos...everyone is trying to find that "discovery" and be a scientist.

I am not trying to hamper anyone or "bash" anyone by saying this. Just offering an opinion.

But I wonder, why spend time analyzing every pixel? Every day I see posts about people finding "artifacts", "ufos", "alien creatures", etc, etc. Every single time I see a photo, all I see are rocks, dust, more rocks, and more dust. There are lens flares, bad lighting, and under/over exposures. In 99% of what I see...people seem to see what they want. I find it hard to believe when someone says "hey, look a building with a pool and they have christmas lights on the structure and a skylight in the top" and then you look and see a square rock or blob.

Just had to add my two pennies.

Keep looking if you must, but I have yet to see anything close to a smoking gun.
In fact, I have never seen the smoke or the gun in a single photo.

We could solve everything if we just went to Mars but that would probably take some time using civilian technology.

Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander
Just a comment that the Mars pictures seem to be very much like the recent war in Iraq. Everyone (with the media) got to be in the war. And with the Mars photos...everyone is trying to find that "discovery" and be a scientist.

Look I see something in the "orb"
Don't yall?

actually zedd, those are pretty interesting anomalies you have found. might be worth a further investigation.

btw, does anyone know why do don't have any that many color pics? seems all the new stuff is in b/w only.

In frame #126638168

I see "apparently" the following:

On the Rt. hand side, there is what looks like
a silvery metal roof building and then a hidden
silvery disc off to the left hand side of that
object also that is half hidden in the natural
terrain. U need to magnify as always.
The best photo imagers for this will gradually
and slowly magnify in small steps which is the
type I have. I can go through 15-20 steps in
magnification.Many prgms only give you 4 steps.

anyway, go take a look. I have no links yet but
will give later.

ETFriend

I saw Elvis driving a dune buggy on one of the frames,i can't remember which one but i'm sure you will come across it soon

anybody trying to "discredit" me without looking into the
facts in great detail themselves is a total fool.

My credentials will stand up against anybody on the
planet Earth.

attacking individuals without proving the evidence
is "wrong" does not cut it with me and my lawyers.

there are more objects up there that appear to have
a silvery surface, metallic- looking. It is not just sand
reflecting sunlight.

there is actually more "clear" evidence coming from the ESA
photos since some suspect there may be a manipulation
coverup of the photos from nasa.(maybe)
that last frame is unusually "blurry", too blurry for
a several hundred million dollar instrument.

frame #129836142,
#126638168
#129562586
#127175085

all of these are "landscape type" scenes that look out to
a horizon. they are from Spirit, mostly Pan cams or
Navigation cams.

[Edited on 14-2-2004 by ETFriend]

Originally posted by ETFriend
anybody trying to "discredit" me without looking into the
facts in great detail themselves is a total fool.

My credentials will stand up against anybody on the
planet Earth.

attacking individuals without proving the evidence
is "wrong" does not cut it with me and my lawyers.

I think you just did more to discredit yourself than we could ever hope to achieve...


As far as the 'frame numbers' you have been told many times that these are not 'frame numbers' and that you need to give entire filenames. Or even just links to the image, something every other member of the board seems to be able to do.

[Edited on 15-2-2004 by Kano]

My credentials will stand up against anybody on the
planet Earth

So...just what are your credentials ??

Are you the foremost authority on MARS ?

Or...

Are you the foremost authority on photography ??

nobody here is interested in the truth, anyway.

my credentials: I met several races of aliens face to face
since the 1950's. I am a Doctoral student currently.I've
attended the best Universities on the planet Earth.

I am not the "authority on Mars or photography",but I
don't have to be either. I see evidence of "structure" on Mars.

There are others that see "structure" on Mars also,
so I am not totally alone.

the so called frame#'s were parts of the photo ID
#'s before the letter "E". most people could find these
on their own if they bother to look.

So far we have seen artifacts from JPEG compression, a few rocks, and the Backplate/Parachute from Opportunity...

If you are making such outlandish claims it is up to you to give the associated links. To do otherwise makes it look like you really don't want people to see the images you refer to. Perhaps due to worry they won't see the same?

You are copying and pasting the timestamp anyway, copy and paste the entire url.

Originally posted by ETFriend
my credentials: I met several races of aliens face to face
since the 1950's. I am a Doctoral student currently.I've
attended the best Universities on the planet Earth.

how old are you?

Originally posted by ETFriend

my credentials: I met several races of aliens face to face
since the 1950's.

That's not a credential. Credentials are third-party-verifiable facts, not outlandish claims with nothing to back them up.

If that's your standard, then my credentials are that I am the All-Being, master of Time, Space and Dimension.

HAHAHA! I win! And you thought your credentials stacked up to anyone's! Foolish mortal!

I am a Doctoral student currently.

Well, that's certainly a show-stopper. Yep, no one else out there could possibly stand up to the credential-laden might of the alleged doctoral student at an unknown institution.

Where are you a student, how long have you been there, and what are your earlier degrees in?

I've
attended the best Universities on the planet Earth.

Bah. Name them.

How long was your alleged "attendance" at each, and did you accomplish anything of verifiable substance while you were there?

the so called frame#'s were parts of the photo ID
#'s before the letter "E". most people could find these
on their own if they bother to look.

Most people who gave a crap would provide useful references, like the ENTIRE photo ID, instead of expecting others to wander through archives on a snipe hunt.

Yawn.

129839142
126638168
129562586
127175085
129476606
127168356
128454805
126910221

I don't have to "answer" to anyone individual human.
I have several ET races behind me.
The evidence is there.

.. and with that, the Princess kissed the frog, and he turned into a handsome Prince. The Prince and Princess were married and lived happily ever after.


*click*