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Topic started on 26-10-2007 @ 06:56 AM by watch_the_rocks


Schoolgirls to get 'cancer jab'


news.bbc.co.uk

Schoolgirls in Britain will be vaccinated against the virus that causes cervical cancer from September 2008, ministers have announced.
The vaccine is given in three injections over six months at a cost of around £300 a course.
"We can stop possibly 85% of people who would have died of cancer dying - and at the moment over a thousand women are dying of this disease in this country now."
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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 06:56 AM by watch_the_rocks


This has already been done here in Australia, at no cost to the recipients. I know a few girls who had their follow-up injection about 2 weeks ago.

Opinions? Mad vaccination conspiracy theories?

news.bbc.co.uk
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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:09 AM by Lecter


Its bad news. It will only encourage girls to have sex, and sex is bad! Mkay? Thats what the religious nuts in the US are saying anyway. Their narrowminded brains dont see how many lives this vaccination will save.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:18 AM by Silcone Synapse


Any talk of bad side effects in Aus?

A few in the USA already:

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Less than a year after it was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), a vaccination designed to prevent cervical cancer in girls and women has reportedly caused three deaths and caused serious, adverse reactions in more than a thousand others."

"One physician's assistant reported that a female patient "died of a blood clot three hours after getting the Gardasil vaccine." Two other reports, on girls 12 and 19, reported deaths relating to heart problems and/or blood clotting.

Of the 1,637 adverse reactions to Gardasil reported to the FDA since the drug was on the market, there were 371 serious reactions. Of the 42 women who received the vaccine while pregnant, 18 experienced side effects ranging from spontaneous abortion to fetal abnormalities."



www.munley.com...

Guess its great for anyone who does not get the side effects.
And you did ask for conspiracy theories,so I should add that I remember reading a while back that the company who makes the drug had fast tracked it through the testing stages for some reason-which may account for the missed side effects?
Not sure about that though.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:32 AM by Silcone Synapse


It was fast tracked through the trials by the FDA:

www.fiercebiotech.com...

Could the vioxx fiasco be the reason-I mean poor old Merck getting all that money taken off them from lawsuits...


"Thousands of Britons who suffered ill effects after using painkiller Vioxx may take legal action against drug company Merck, a solicitor has said.

Gerard Dervan, of MSB Solicitors, said it was a "fair estimation" to say thousands may seek action. Almost 500,000 Britons have used the drug.

It comes after a US jury found Merck negligent in the death of a man who used it and awarded his widow £141m. "


news.bbc.co.uk...

Does that count as a conspiracy?



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:36 AM by LovingSoul


There is NO WAY that anyone would get me to agree to a vaccination of this sort for myself or my daughter. Shocking! I do not, in general, agree with vaccinations, anyway.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:43 AM by marg6043


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Really, read statistics when it comes to sex we as humans are going to become sexually active with vaccine or not vaccine.

BTW nobody should be forced to take any vaccine they do not want, and the best way to avoid getting the virus is with safe sex.

The vaccine is not one hundred percent guarantee it only target certain types of the virus, and males are carriers.

Somebody should be looking into a vaccine for the males also.

www.reproline.jhu.edu...

Is too early for side effects from the vaccine but eventually it may happen.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 07:54 AM by Jadette


Also if you read the whole report about it, it says,


Merck, the FDA and also the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) add that the three deaths were unlikely to have been caused by Gardasil. The CDC said that two of the women were taking birth-control pills and died from blood clots, a known risk of contraceptive medication. The third, a 12-year-old girl, suffered from heart disease and died from a heart inflammation brought on by the flu.


So the 'deaths were related to' only means that they occured in the subjects, not that they were caused by it.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:01 AM by icybreeze



Originally posted by Lecter
Its bad news. It will only encourage girls to have sex

hi, just wondering...why do they say this will encourage girls to have sex? as far as i know cancer is not a sexually trasmitted disease. or am i wrong?

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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:04 AM by Jadette


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Actually in this case, it is. It's related to a virus. This innoculation prevents the virus. Hence some people are claiming that taking away the threat of possibly getting cancer by having sex would encourage more people to have sex.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:08 AM by watch_the_rocks



Originally posted by Jadette
Some people are claiming that taking away the threat of possibly getting cancer by having sex would encourage more people to have sex.


I'm sure the virus was never taken into consideration by frisky teenagers in the first place.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:11 AM by BlueRaja


I suppose back in the day, folks complained that penicillin would just encourage people to have sex too. I think it's a great break through considering the HPV/cervical cancer risk. I'd rather run the risk of a few side effects than have all sorts of curable diseases killing people needlessly.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:12 AM by annestacey


There are some people dying from this vaccine. And of course (again), the FDA ignores the fact that there is an herbal remedy for HPV (the herb Pau d' Arco has been proven to prevent and cure the disease) because they can't make money from natural healing foods, herbs and supplements.



According to Judicial Watch, 3,461 complaints about Gardasil have been filed with FDA's Vaccine Adverse Event Report System since its approval last year, and 11 women died after exposure to the vaccine. That is an additional 8 deaths since the last report of 3. The complaints about Gardasil have more than doubled compared to the original 1,637 adverse events reported by Alliance for Human Research Protection.


Source: 8 More Deaths Caused by Gardasil Bringing Total Number To 11



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:13 AM by marg6043


That is very true young teens in many instances do not stop and think, but the fact is that young males should be told through education that they will become carriers of the virus while practicing unsafe sex.

As a carriers he could infect any girls or women he will have unsafe sex with.

Sad but is the truth.

Is lacking of safe sex education in our nation because to many groups are claiming that it will increase sexual activity.

Still they young people needs to know what they are getting into and what they can become like the males carriers of this virus.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:15 AM by marg6043


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You know how it goes my friend since the government gave protection to pharmaceuticals it will have to be more than just a few cases that at this time is more than enough for them to link the deaths to the vaccine.

Sad.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:32 AM by Harlequin


How many people die from going to the doctor and having the Flu vaccine every year? or from the hepatitus vaccine?



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:32 AM by gallopinghordes


My daugher and I took a long hard look at this vaccine and she has elected to wait for further study. Our insurance does cover this so if in the future she elects to have we'll go ahead and do it. Even if insurance didn't cover it I'm more then willing to pay as it sure beats having cancer.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:36 AM by icybreeze


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thank you , i didn't know that.



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:43 AM by blowfishdl


Let's just hope it doesn't give them cancer rather than prevent it!



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reply posted on 26-10-2007 @ 08:44 AM by marg6043


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My daughter that just graduated with a biology major said that she will not take the vaccine because for what she has research on the making of it may no be safe to young reproducting females.

Just some food for thoughts. I think you have a very intelligence young girl as a daughter.

Nothing beats save sex.



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