Is this real??, page 4
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4    5  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 0 times


reply posted on 5-9-2004 @ 12:31 AM by darkhealer88
This picture was taken near where i live. It is not uncommon to see planes being towed.

First, i will address the issue of sand and dirt being on the road. As some of you can tell from the picture, they are in a desert. It is the Mojave desert in California where winds regularly approach 20-30 mph, causing dirt and dust to be everywhere.

Secondly, there was one person talking about it would not fit on an ordinary road. This road is not ordinary. It is between Edwards Air Force Base in Mojave/Rosamond CA and Air Force Plant 42 in Palmdale CA. This road is regularly used to transport aircraft between the bases cause it is cheaper since it is only 20 or so miles. The road was purposely made wide enough. I have seen the Space Shuttle being towed on the road (it lands at Edwards, but the only machine that can place it atop the transformed 747 to fly to Florida is at Plant 42) The space shuttle is seventy-something feet wide but the SR-71 is only 55.

Thirdly, people have been talking of why they would transport a top secret plane on regular streets. The fact is is that the plane is no longer top secret (it has been like that for at least 2 1/2 decades)

Another point people make is that the plane looks too short to be the real thing. It is because of the angle of the camera.

Someone said that it is missing part of its right wing (your left when looking at the pic). That is the whole wing. I know cause i have seen the plane in real life. It looks like the wing extends further on the left, but that is caused by the police car in the back. What looks like the wire hanging from the right wing is really a bright orange strip that has in bold letters "REMOVE BEFORE TAKEOFF" written on it. These are attached to most plane's wings when they are on the ground just as you need to place one on the back of a truck if you are hauling something that hangs past the bumper (at least you do have to in CA).

Someone confused this plane earlier with the A-12, but this picture will show you both of them


The A-12 is in the Center, the SR-71 is on the left next to the firetruck. FYI- The drone on the right is theD-21. This is the only place in the world with the A-12 and SR-71 together so this is the best pic to show the difference. The SR-71 is wider (around the cockpit area) and when you look at the picture of the plane being towed, it is wider than that of an A-12.

Last thing- those planes i had the picture off can be seen for free in Palmdale, CA at the corner of 30th street east and Ave P. here is the website for the museum
www.edwards.af.mil...


reply posted on 6-9-2004 @ 12:01 AM by darkhealer88
I have done a bit more research and have come up with a bit more information that will help distinguish the A-12 and the SR-71

My first point is that the A-12 is a single person aircraft, the SR-71 seats two. Because of this, in the cockpit, the A-12 has only one window for the cockpit on each side of the plane, but the SR-71 has another set a little bit further back. see this picture


Now, if you go to the picture this forum is debating, you can see the secondary window on the port (plane's left) side of the aircraft. It is kindof hard to see, but there is a little bit of glare from the window.

Another difference is that the A-12 was used to carry the D-21 drone that was linked in one of my earlier posts (sixth post of page four). Because of this, under the fuelage on the A-12, there is a rack for carrying the D-21. On the picture of the SR-71 being towed, you can see most of the underbelly (the important part you can see) and there is no rack.


reply posted on 7-9-2004 @ 06:42 PM by darkhealer88
Obviously, you have not been near an airport since they started using planes for transportation. That truck-looking vehicle that you see directly in front of the SR-71 is used to transport a plane when it cannot do it under its own power- such as when a commercial plane is pushing away from the terminal or when they want to transfer a plane long distances overland because they get more control and the diesel gas for that truck costs less than the jet fuel to move the plane 20 miles to Plant 42.

This vehicle moves the planes without compromising their stability by attaching itself to the front landing gear by using a metal pole.

As for your arguement about the change in highway color, that happens alot out here. This arguement has already been made and this arguement has already been disproved. Here it is again, but in more detail:

There is just dirt and sand sitting on the road. Look at the picture, at the top of it on the right side off of the road, there is white sand. In the median between the lanes, you can see that white sand has blown onto the road. Closer to the camera, the sand changes to dirt, which is darker and the dirt blown on the road is darker. Where there is an offramp from the highway, the pavement is regular greyish-black because dirt is not being blown from that part of the road-side.

The shadows appear to be messed up, but that is just because the SR-71 is higher than the cars. Follow these directions
draw an imaginary line from the part of the shadow that coresponds to the curve in the fuelage near the cockpit to the coresponding point on the real plane. Then do the same for any car in the procession, drawing a imaginary line from the edge of the shadow (near the middle of the car-length) to the top of the hood (near the middle of the car) and you will see the lines are parallel, thus proving that the earth only has one sun and it is in the same point in space throughout the time it took for the shutter in the camera to open and close.

[edit on 7-9-2004 by darkhealer88]
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4    5  >>    ^^TOP^^



In Case Of Videos Of Flying People
  Posted 12 days ago with 9 member flags
First flight for \'flapless\' plane - the Evolution of Aviation
  Posted 15 days ago with 4 member flags
F22 mishap or more that meeets the eye?
  Posted 3 days ago with 4 member flags
Boeing X-37 and X-40 - the ultimate history
  Posted 8 days ago with 3 member flags
Its a bird, its a plane, no its a ....
  Posted 16 days ago with 0 member flags