I tend to agree. I should have clarified that statement is a generalization to bring public school sexual education under the same issue as government mandating sexual education for foster children.

Point being, it's not any of the Government's business.

I'll tell you what I think.

The Child Protection System in which I worked blatantly discriminated against Christians and their values.

These agencies don't give a flying cow chip about kids.

They would rather place kids in a shelter, where their lives will forever change because of the influences they will encounter there, than to place kids in a Christian home.

If you think Child Protective Services is about protecting kids, think again.

To Child Protective Services, a child is just a source state funds and federal matching funds and has no value beyond the bureaucracies these funds support.

And that's the truth.

Regardless of how well meaning this couple is, they are better off out of the system.

I commend them for placing their values over those of the agency and its secular "progressive" agenda.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
I commend them for placing their values over those of the agency and its secular "progressive" agenda.

Indeed, we should all have the faith in our own beliefs and values to place them at the very heart of what we do.

If it is appropriate and possible then we should also shout those values from the roof tops to make others aware of them.

...but it's absolutely no damned use believing that holding your Christian values dear should exempt you from the law no matter how sweet and charming an old couple you may look. Let's stop sugar coating the issue and face facts; these two want to bring up other peoples children believing that homosexuality is an abomination before God and that people who practice such beliefs are to be abhorred. If these two lovable people were Muslims rather than Christians and were determined to bring up a foster child believing that adulterers should be stoned to death the majority of Daily Mail readers would be demanding their deportation and preferably public hanging.

What makes Christians believe they are above the law?

[edit on 30-10-2007 by timeless test]

Originally posted by timeless test

...but it's absolutely no damned use believing that holding your Christian values dear should exempt you from the law no matter how sweet and charming an old couple you may look.

What makes Christians believe they are above the law?

Who said that?


[edit on 2007/10/30 by GradyPhilpott]

I have been watching this thread for a while now, and I didn’t think that I would respond, but I want to just share a personal view of the situation.


I was a foster parent from 1977-1978. We fostered only infants due to the number of bedrooms we had. We thought that we could make a difference in the lives of at least a couple of children. We were in Texas, and it was a long time ago, but as far as I can tell, things haven’t gotten any better, and perhaps they have worse than they were back then.

Our first was a 6 week old little girl that had been abandoned. They delivered her to me absolutely filthy, with lice to boot. After burning all the clothing she came with, delousing her, and bathing her we had a wonderful six weeks loving her, and considered adoption. As it seems to almost always be the case, the government came in, took her from us, and returned her to her mother, to continue the life she had had prior. Heart breaking for me and my family.

Next, they gave us a three month old little boy. He was clean, and no lice. He had been in the hospital for three weeks with a fractured skull and broken bones, and multiple bruises and abrasions. We had a heck of a time with this little guy. He was very fretful and cried everyday starting promptly at 5:00 PM. You guessed it, the same father that had physically abused him, had also gotten him addicted to some sort of drug to calm him when the father got home. He “couldn’t stand the kid crying all the time”.

In this case, the baby never should have been placed with us, because we were not educated at all about drug addicted cases. After 10 days of not being able to sooth this helpless infant, they came and got him, apologizing like mad for the error, and the problems it had caused US! Not a hint of remorse for the trauma that had been caused the innocent child. We learned later, that the baby was returned to the mother, and the father was awaiting trial for child abuse. (I have always wondered where mom was when all that abuse took place. But the agency felt fit to return him to the mother. Ya right!)

And our third little one was a nine month old girl. She was a case of neglect in the hygiene area, and had a horrible case of impetigo. She was covered with sores and the majority were severely infected. She came to us with medication and was clean. The first night, she woke up and of course I got up with her, I changed her diaper and saw a huge swelling across her little belly. I rocked and comforted her, and in about 1 ½ hours that swelling was gone, but her leg was then swollen. I had no idea of what was going on, or what could be wrong with her, but I immediately took her to the hospital. It was a severe reaction to the penicillin shot they had given her just prior to bringing her to us. She remained in the hospital for the next 10 days, until the penicillin had passed through her system. She was then released to her mother.

The point is if the government can’t address the emotional and physical needs of these children by sending them back to the problems they came from, why would they care what religious values are taught at the caregivers’ homes. There are far bigger problems to address here than the homosexual agenda.

I haven't read all of the posts.....
but it seems that everyone is focusing on the poor parents, and how their rights are being denied them....

What about the children? They have a good lawsuit!! Good foster parents are hard to find, and they've lucked out and found them a couple!!
So, the gov't decides that they will uproot them again, away from what they are now calling home.....because the parents are refusing to teach them something they don't really care about anyway??

God, I don't know how it works in Europe, but here in the states, every foster child is given a law guardian to look out for their interest...these foster parents should be contacting the children's law guardian! What is going on is a shame!