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Originally posted by Boondock78
the good stuff is old, or not mainstream and you have to go digging.
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
Hip hop is not dead.
Let me not play into some trendy catch phrase like the OP.
You have no idea what you're talking about. It's not dead. Every element of hip hop is still exactly where it started. Struggling people all around the world from Portland, Oregon to the West Bank can identify with most aspects of it. It's a universal music.
In a political aspect, it has seemed to take pick up where punk rock left off. Hip hop has become a political weapon in and of itself. Anybody can get a instrumental record, anybody can write, anybody can rhyme. I think hip hop, like all the music from the struggling class is a beautiful thing. And those who are responsible for it's downfall are the same people saying it's dead.
Immortal Technique and Common is all you got? Please.
Sorry to rock your boat, but my title is far from a trendy catch phrase.
You say struggle does play a big part of Hip Hop, but that does not turn them into a "good" or even decent artist. Struggle is not a talent but something everyone experiences to a certain extent. The lyrics you hear in hip hop nowadays doesn't seem real to me, just sounds like many artists are sell outs(their more like actors with a mic). Also, I am talking about the music here in America, and not the rest of the world. I admire some rap from Europe too, since I have lived there half of my life.
I've been a fan for hip hop for many years now; I still listen to it. I am just a messenger, so why bother killing me? and blaming its downfall on me. I am enjoying it just as much as you are. Now, can you give me an example of what you consider a "beautiful thing" ? instead of ranting about its political aspect.
And don't insult me by saying "all you got" when I am a fan of Tupac, Bone thugz, 50 cent, Outlawz, Jedi mind tricks, Atmosphere, Cypress hill, Geto boys, Juelz santana, Havoc, Mobb deep, Jay z, Lil wayne, Biggie, Snoop dogg, Dr. dre, Eminem, T-rock, Twista, Kanye west and should I continue?
All of these artists have been around for quite some years and the new rap I hear nowadays is nothing compared to them. To me Hip Hop is dead as of 2007. But who says we can't enjoy listening to the good stuff. ( OLD HIP HOP )
- Vinny Paz
Mommy, I'm sorry if my first letter made you cry
To be honest with you, I don't think that I want to die
Sometimes I feel like that I'm cancerous in other's lives
That's probably why I drink at night and sleep 'til four or five
It's kind of hard walkin' through life with my distorted eyes
When I was younger, I was stupid and I thought I'd thrive
I thought a lot about everything I said in the letter
And questioned whether or not if I was dead, you'd be better
You think my shorty would be happy if I never met her?
It's too late now, mommy, I could never forget her
Could never forget how she taught me to love
'Cause my father and my grandmother is always above
It's glory above, you know that daddy taught me to thug
And every time we was with nanny she'd bombard me with hugs
Damn, I miss her, mommy, and it's hard to believe
That I'm grown and I don't understand it, why did they leave?
Originally posted by ready4whatever
Real talk, Hip hop is dead. I don't see any more real rappers theres a few like common and immortal technique but I've never see anyone even come close to 2pacs level..nowadays the lyrics are weak even the beats.
Elevate, meditate, eliminate
Thoughts from my past keep knockin up on my gate
Should I let em in
the answer's not to debate
But to observe to debating
and then we can all escape
Party people listen up
At the drop of a dime
They took cameras to Africa
For pictures to rhyme over
oh, yes the great pretenders
Religious entertainers that wanna be lifesavers
Damn, another diamond from the mine
Another cold secret they grope for but can't find
Can't copy sketches of pictures with no lines
I guess it's just a case of the blind leading the blind
Source - My Brain