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reply posted on 29-10-2007 @ 10:03 PM by aceace
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At about the 6 minute mark of this audio, RCH says he has a smoking gun photo of ruins on the moon that is 100x times more convincing than the face on mars photos? Whatever that means.


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 12:49 AM by Grey Basket
Originally posted by aceace
www.enterprisemission.com...


Dear Colleague,

My name is Cheryll Jones, former news anchor at CNN.


I don't know whether this has already been mentioned, but Ms. Jones was also the host of Hoagland's "God, Man and ET: The Search of Other Worlds in Science" (2005):
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reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 03:38 AM by Cold Metallic Voice
I've made a living in the media and publishing for many years. This is indeed nothing but a makeshift book tour. Read the authors' LA stop schedule - "book signing" is on the itinerary three times in one day.

This new book has many photos, which Hoagland and Bara use to support their overall argument about a NASA cover-up. Hoagland is not a news media rookie. If he had new, hot-off-the-press evidence that is not in the book, he would have said so in all these press releases. I used to work in newspapers for a while. Trust me - releases of this kind are faxed, mailed and emailed every 2.7 seconds to every paper of every circulation size. They're almost always trashed. If there were news in them, they'd be considered. There's absolutely no news mentioned anywhere in these releases. It's all just a rehash of the book promo material.

If what Hoagland and Bara argued in their book were true, some of the key points would have been in every newspaper, magazine, TV, radio and web site on the globe, as a news story before the book even came out - not just a spot on Coast To Coast or a blog or whatnot.

Publishing houses and literary agents don't - or usually don't - handle publicity for their author's book. It has to be a great exception (well-known author or important subject, for example.) Top-selling authors hire top publicists. That can be expensive, and understandably, I know everyone can't always go that route. However, proof of a NASA cover-up is something 6.5 billion people would want to know about. In such a case, not only would renowned publicists be stalking Hoagland and Bara, the authors most likely would have negotiated with the publisher to include a promo budget in their contract (if the publisher was a sizable house.)

I don't know the steps taken to get this book got published, and just because it was published by a smaller company doesn't mean it's not a worthy book. But the fact that Feral House is the one that ultimately went with this book is enough to raise eyebrows about what's in it.

You think the big-time publishing world always avoids a good conspiracy? Er, OK so how many books on JFK have been written? Your writing talent could make Shakespeare look like a 4-year-old with sidewalk chalk - but it is nearly impossible to publish yet another JFK book unless there is something really tangible and new to expose. I swear - big publishers do not shy away from an ostensibly tired, weird or controversial subject if there is something worthy there.

By the way, this whole "controversy" about Ken Johnston and the JPL Solar System Ambassador program doesn't put Bara in a good light. Bara said a news reporter launched "a direct personal attack" against Johnston, which led to him being asked to leave the JPL thing.

1.) That doesn't square with what Johnston or JPL have said.
2.) Since when did asking about someone's credentials become a personal attack???

This Bara guy is full of hyperbole and doesn't answer direct questions on his blog. Johnston doesn't answer direct questions, either. And Hoagland's reputation for the truth hasn't always been sterling. You try to bring these credibility issues up and you're the one who is accused of wanting to suppress the truth!?!? Give me a break. I want everything on the table, I don't want to suppress anything, I don't want anyone silenced. But these people are the ones standing in the way of their own cause.



reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 11:42 AM by aceace
Went to the Press Club site.
www.press.org...

This says Ken Johnston was fired directly for his involvement with the "Dark Mission book"

Fired NASA Whistleblower to Reveal New Apollo Secrets Kept Classified by Space Agency for Over 40 Years.

Dr. Ken Johnston, former Manager of the Data and Photo Control Division at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Exploration Effort in the 1970's, was abruptly terminated Tuesday morning, October 23rd, from NASA's prestigious "Solar System Ambassador" (SSA) Program at JPL. The firing was direct reprisal for Johnston's published account in a New York Times Best Seller, "Dark Mission: the Secret History of NASA," of how NASA ordered him, 40 years ago, to destroy key Apollo lunar images and data -- rather than allow them to be preserved for academic study and public view. Johnston will testify at an Enterprise Mission sponsored National Press Club news conference this Tuesday, October 30th (Zenger Room, 9:00 AM) , how he disobeyed these NASA orders, secretly preserving the critical Apollo images. Johnston will then show some of the "missing" Apollo frames -- which confirm the existence of long-rumored "ancient artificial ruins and technology on the Moon," discovered by the Apollo astronauts but legally classified under the 1958 Space Act by NASA for over 40 years.



reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 12:50 PM by Grey Basket
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Yeah, I don't know too many "press conferences" that charge $150 per person to attend: www.sahaya.web.aplus.net...

And the book on the building, and offering free signed copies to attendees doesn't help matters either.

[edit on 30-10-2007 by Grey Basket]


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 01:44 PM by Donoso
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I find the lack of information coming out of the actual conference to be the most interesting part of the whole ordeal. There's probably nothing to release.


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 02:43 PM by Cold Metallic Voice
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That was a good rejoinder on the PR bit. But, this does not yet address the core issue.

Whether the DM PR at NPC clicks on not is not the issue. Whether other mainstream news and media pick it up or not is once again not the issue.

What is important is the evidence. Not just from Hoagland or Bara....


Guy, that's exactly what I'm saying. You cannot have significant PR without a valid story. Well, you can at first. But if there is no there there, you will be seen as a fraud.

It is absolutely ludicrous to believe that this big of a story, if true, would get shuffled under the rug. If this NASA cover-up is so apparent, if all this evidence is already out there, then like I said - publicists, agents, Hollywood and every news organization on the planet would GO TO THE AUTHORS. Not the other way around.

I know this is a conspiracy forum, and I myself like thinking about some of the stuff that's talked about here. But if you (in general) are never able to distinguish between fact and fantasy and I-just-don't-know, or if you constantly and purposefully confuse people into thinking fact is fiction, etc., then your cause is lost (if anyone believes you at that point that there was a worthwhile cause to begin with.)

This Dark Mission book might have some great stuff in it. Some of it might be true. I haven't read it. But based on how the authors have handled themselves so far, I can't take them seriously. Obviously, I'm not the only one. The last thing this kind of story needs is to be peddled by BS artists. And I wish I didn't have to lay down the Gertrude Stein hammer here, because it's not a subject I'm ready to blow off.

One more thing - CSPAN doesn't cover every press club event live. They usually tape them for an airing down the road. And they sure don't tape everything. It's not that hard to reserve a room in the NPC.

I've checked google news several times today to see if anyone has picked up anything from this Dark Mission "press conference." I see zero stories so far.
You've got two authors out there asking for anyone in the world to stop by and answer questions, and they've brought along a NASA whistle blower - and no one has filed a story yet?

C'mon, man. This is beyond embarrassing for the Dark Mission people.


reply posted on 30-10-2007 @ 03:00 PM by NGC2736
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I'm certainly not saying there is anything to this "press conference" thing. BUT, in this day and age, when the drunk driving habits of wanna' be actresses is news, then damn near anything is.

So how does it come down that no one is interested in this? Not even to make wisecracks? It seems as if everyone is ignoring this, and I find that unusual in itself. Shunning is an old Amish tradition, but I've never seen it in the modern tabloid world.

Silence has a voice too, you just have to listen harder.
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