Thanks for that informative post.

We may not be able to help fight the fire,

but we can fight this utterly unbelievable event.

If you don't think FOX News is not watching every

word we post here, I believe you are naive.

People, I believe we a standing at a crossroad.

Time to step up.

We want answers!

Amazing work guys. Let's see if they share any link.

This is a terrible situation at best. I think government conspiracies are ruled out though. My brother, being in the Marine Corps, was just recently evacuated from Camp Pendleton. He's sent me pictures of the fires via text messaging and told me about watching one of the buildings on base being consumed by flames. I don't think the government would pull something off that would clearly damage or destroy somewhere that houses their Elite soldiers. If it's as well planned out as you make it out to be, my brother would probably still be carrying out his orders on base.

Never thought of that. Why, if US military infrastructure were destroyed, and US troops were tied down on base, that would mean foreign troops might have to be called in to restore order. They wouldn't do that, would they?

I don't think they could include regular mil. For now, it has to be covert.

If they can get us to think this is al qaeda, then they can bring in the mil,

under the guise of protecting citizens.

No, I believe this is a false flag op gone wrong.

This was supposed to be blamed on al-quaeda, and now

they don't know what to do.

It will be interesting to see em try to weasel out of this one,

LOS ANGELES - As wildfires were charging across Southern California, nearly two dozen water-dropping helicopters and two massive cargo planes sat idly by, grounded by government rules and bureaucracy.

I don't know which is worse. Arsonists, or a government who steals our money and freedom so that they can make sure their pet projects are taken care of, while the citizens that fund them get bypassed.

Originally posted by starviego
Never thought of that. Why, if US military infrastructure were destroyed, and US troops were tied down on base, that would mean foreign troops might have to be called in to restore order. They wouldn't do that, would they?

I wouldn't bet your life on it. No way will a foreign force ever be allowed to step foot upon U.S. Soil.

There is no government conspiracy with these fires. The only conspiracy possible would be that of a terrorist group. Whether it be international terrorists, or some eco-nuts, this always remains an extremely high possibility. There are far too many seperate fires set in and around populated locations for this to be anything but a deliberate series of actions most likely coordinated.

Actually Mexican army forces were sent north to "aid" in the response to Hurricane Katrina. And our police have 'exchange' programs with law enforcement in Canada and Mexico.

So now, when I hear about fire departments from Mexico and Australia and even New York being sent to SoCal, maybe the bigger agenda here is get us all used to seeing foreign uniformed forces on our soil.

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This is a bit off topic, but I believe is interconnected.

God gives me dreams occasionally, that are premonitions of the future.

One I had is most disturbing.

- a dream -

I see the space shuttle coming in for a landing, and it explodes.

The dream goes on, that after that event, the US is plunged in civil war,

and the people we are fighting against use black uniforms.

- / a dream -

I had this dream several years ago. Before the second shuttle disaster. But that one didn't fit my dream, because it wasn't close enough to the ground.


Now with the thread about the CNN reporter warning about the shuttle, and the recent events bringing Blackwater into light,

I'm a bit concerned.

This dream was definitely the beginning of the End Times.

OK, sorry for that diversion, but I wanted to share that with those following this thread, and to those

who know that I am guided by a higher power.




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Here's another little anomoly.

I can put my Grandma's name into Google, and it gives you an address, phone number, etc.

Put any of the arsonists name into Google.

Nothing, but articles related to the fire.

Someone has obviously gone through

alot of trouble to keep these people

identities askewed.

So Fox News is barely reporting on the fires this morning.

No Adam Housley. No names released about arsonists.

No nothing but fluff and other non-critical stories.

Maybe this is because their brass is sitting nice

and comfortable in their New York offices,

collecting insurance claims on their properties

that "accidently" got burnt, along with incriminating evidence

and a couple of dissadents (charred bodies)

And this thread will die down, because this isn't our

problem, is it.

I've got one thing to say.

Maybe people deserve what is coming.

Maybe people are just happy with the way things are.

Maybe people like the direction of the world.

Don't live in CA? Not your problem?

Think again.




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IED's are way down in Iraq.

Blackwater must be busy in the US.

Hmm, interesting point.

I did notice that Portero, where Blackwater wants to put their facilities, is right on the Mexican Border, which would fascilitate shuttling back and forth accross the border much easier.

Who knows, they could even dig a big tunnel.

Bush is now making a speech.

He makes me sick. He is so disingenuous.

He tries to act like such a cowboy.

I can tell you that I grew up on ranches,
and Bush doesn't have an ounce of cowboy in him

He's as city slicker as they get.


(No offense against city slickers, it just if you are one, don't try to act like a cowboy. It's as phony as they get)

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