I think you would be surprised how many people are fooled by Hillary. My own Mother, who is a very VERY educated women, is leaning in that direction. Not due to any issue but because of Gender. I was floored to say the least. Not surprising to me is that she had no idea who Ron Paul was. Like a lot of issues, if it is not plastered all over the MSM the majority is clueless.

I highly doubt that Hillary would cede anything and like the OP I think Hillary is completely and totally full of poop.

Copernicus ultimately a mod will decided where this threat belongs . The general rule of thumb seems to be if there is a conspiracy involved then the topic belongs on ATS . Otherwise if the topic is purely political in nature it belongs over on AP. So far no one has tied a conspiracy to this thread that is not to say that valid issues that deserve to be debated haven't been raised.

Pff please... shes going to use the powers bush has grabbed in his presidency which have already limited or nullified certain freedoms, and use them to further take away even more freedoms...

This two party system will be the end of this once great nation, each party takes away certain freedoms, while doing so they focus attention onto what freedoms the other party is chipping away at, while ignoring the ones they themselves have chipped away...


Two sides of the same coin people


Your personal views on gay marriage are just that personal, Congress cant Constitutionally pass any laws regarding it as doing so would be a violation of the 1st amendment,

congress shall pass no laws respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Regardless of rather or not that law is for or against a religion, congress shall pas NO laws...


Your stance on guns like em or don't like em, should have no bearing on who you vote for, why? because congress cant vote on it constitutionally, its a right rather you agree with it is again your personal opinion..

And just because they do vote on these things, doesn't mean they can, they get by with it because we allow it..

Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness people, If someones not violating your individual rights, then what they do, own, or say, to be perfectly honest, is none of your damn business, if that offends you, then well thats your problem.


Stop falling into the trap of voting for the lesser evil, or voting for people over issues they have no power to vote on, Vote on a person who will protect your constitutionally insured rights, (you know what they swore to do in that little oath they take?) Don't vote Democrat, Don't vote Republican, Vote American.

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Hopefully whether it's Ron Paul or Clinton (Oh FSM no) they will relinquish the Executive Orders Bush has put into effect. The ones that pretty much give the president unarguable military state powers that can't be questioned by congress for months if he sees a threat to 'national security'.

One real way to respond to that.


Bull#.