Wildfires in California may have been no accident., page 1
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reply posted on 24-10-2007 @ 11:48 PM by edbaseball17
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Don't they know they'll be seasonal when they're hired? While that could be the case, it's hard to say. I would put dollars to donuts that it was some ahole sicko who could have lit these fires just for the fun of it.


reply posted on 24-10-2007 @ 11:55 PM by Wifiman
Originally posted by edbaseball17
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Don't they know they'll be seasonal when they're hired? While that could be the case, it's hard to say. I would put dollars to donuts that it was some ahole sicko who could have lit these fires just for the fun of it.


Of course they know they are seasonal. But most hope that they can land full time jobs within the agency. What would you do in that situation if you we hoping to land the full-time gig and didn't get it but had $3,500 house payments?

Something to think about...


reply posted on 25-10-2007 @ 12:01 AM by Hellmutt
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That article is from 2003.


However, what date did these fires start in California? Does anybody know?


reply posted on 25-10-2007 @ 12:09 AM by Wifiman
Originally posted by edbaseball17
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Don't they know they'll be seasonal when they're hired? While that could be the case, it's hard to say. I would put dollars to donuts that it was some ahole sicko who could have lit these fires just for the fun of it.


We are both in agreement that we suspect arson here. These type of fires happen every year, but to this magnitude? Something is amiss...Could be plain ole arson..but could be something more sinister in nature, not gov related, but personal.


reply posted on 25-10-2007 @ 12:16 AM by sharkman
I have lived here in San Diego County for 43 of my 48yrs. and I can tell you that this is a very seasonal problem. The first fires that started near Ramona, Ca. were caused by downed power lines, another started on Harris ranch near Tecate and no one is really saying for sure about the other 2 or 3 fires that are going right now. The Harris Ranch fire burned within 1000 yards of my house and the neighborhood was evacuated 36 hrs. ago. they have now let us back into the neighborhood. Some 500,000 people plus livestock were evacuated county wide because of the threat. That's supposedly more people than were displaced by Katrina, although this is a much different scenario. So far we are looking at over 300,000 acres burned and up to around 1500-2000 homes and businesses lost.

4 yrs. ago we had another pretty bad one, the worst in 50 yrs., but smaller than this one, and it caused several hundred homes to be lost and killed several people. Because of that last incident the local politicos took a severe lashing by the voters and many changes were made to prevent the same potential loss of life. The new system has worked very well and many lives have been saved. They instituted a reverse 911 calling system that informed threatened areas of the fires and allowed people time to evacuate.

There is an ongoing pissing match between the CALFIRE(Formerly CDF) and the other local authorities about using military firefighters. Several county, state and federal authorities have ripped CALFIRE a new one because they were stonewalling the use of military firefighting helos. The Governator, Sen. Boxer and DHS Sec Chertoff along with Congressional Reps were chewing CALFIRES collective @SS yesterday and today to back-off their bureaucratic BS and let the military help. They finally relented but personally I would be firing those losers right now for procrastinating. The first day the winds were so bad they couldn't fly but yesterday and today they were flying.

We did have some high school kids start a fire day before yesterday right outside 1 of the high schools in San Ysidro right near the border. But they got it put out pretty quick. The authorities have said they will investigate the origins of all these fires after the dust settles.

As far as it being contractors starting the fires, I really doubt it, but a few years ago they did bust an Fire official up in the LA area for starting fires, I believe he was an investigator on top of it all. Also they busted a seasonal firefighter here in San Diego a few years ago also for doing the same thing. The last big fire we had 4 yrs. ago got started by a lost hunter who shot a flare off because he thought his buddy's would be able to find him easier.

For those of you who don't know, if you're lost in the woods, you shoot off 3 quick rounds to let folks know you're lost or in trouble, you don't shoot off flares where there is nothing but kindling. What a moron!

My thoughts and prayers go out to those who have lost loved ones and their homes. This is really horrible to watch. The big worry now is that as soon as the Santana winds back off and we get an on-shore wind pattern that the fire will turn around and start burning to the east instead of the west like it has for the last 3-4 days. The thing that makes this Santana so bad is the fact that it's lasting for 4-5 days instead of the usual 2-3 days. Haven't seen one this strong in a long time.

I did here that the fire they are calling the "Poochanga fire " started on the La Jolla Indian Reservation and was originally a structural fire and that it moved up the slopes toward Mnt. Palomar. They are afraid that it will link up with another fire in the area.

[edit on 25-10-2007 by sharkman]



reply posted on 25-10-2007 @ 12:37 AM by edbaseball17
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I would way the consequences of goin to prison for a long, long time . . vs toughing it out as long as possible. Anway, we really dont know what happend, we're just speculating, i just hope no one gets killed, that's all.
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