Spaceflightnow is a great website. Lots of information there. Unfortunately, you can use it to bolster whatever side you want....if you ignore common sense, reason and logic that is.

Originally posted by Laxpla

Also, what faults seem to be in this timeline?

Well for one thing its missing about a page of time and tasks.

Let me get the real one.

I would love to have you accuratly look over this site, it has lots of information, something that this thread lacks.

Yes, not to mention your post.

Thanks.

Spaceflightnow is a great website. Lots of information there. Unfortunately, you can use it to bolster whatever side you want....if you ignore common sense, reason and logic that is.

Ignoring common sense, reason and logic. Its common sense, that the space shuttle docks with a SSS? With reason and logic unknown? How am I ignoring these "critical" aspects? Give me a example?

So Laxpla, What proof do you have that would make us believe with out a shadow of a doubt that the list that you posted is exactly what they did. I am waiting anxiously.

Well, heres a short list of why these claims are close to correct then some undefined theory about the STS-120 docking with a SSS.

Anxiousaly waiting for what, my response? The site I offered you is a third party source offering news, not a NASA affiliate. I know in your terms of thinking, your in denial of the government doing something honest, so let me elaborate more. Sure, NASA could have posted a "fake" timeline, but heres some reasons to make it impossible for them to do it.

Sure, I guess that you cant take anything for 100%, but this site is sure as heck arbitrary comes close to it. I mean thinking ultra conservative in a conspiracy tense will lend you the doubt thats notings real. Hiding such a thing, would be EXTREMELY close to impossible, the press in the control room would catch on to something if the Shuttle makes a pit stop at this other space station. Not to mention the astronomers following closely the whole thing.

Other space agencies, espically the European nation and Russia are closly tracking the shuttle, why? Because its the European module going on the ISS, wouldnt it raise suspicion if the Shuttle docks with another station? I dont want to think what the Russians would think if its a US military SS, the only advatage of a SSS that I can think of is military. The Russians fliped out after the US proposed to put a BMD in Poland, non the less a SSS with military advantages? The advantages of having a US SSS thats known by top leaders of other countries?

Well for one thing its missing about a page of time and tasks.

Let me get the real one.

Yes, not to mention your post.

Thanks.

John Lear, why do you avoid all the other information that I posted earlier in the topic? Cant think of a rebuttle at this time, or cat got your toung?

Anyways,

John I have been asking this question all along, you think this is a Secret Soul Catching Space Station, SSCSS, which sends the souls to that soul catching moon base? Or is a communications link between Earth and the 6 million people underground in Mars.

John Lear, again, you fail to make sense.

Your claim has no proof, nothing close to it. I mean all of your claims are exactly like that, the only thing as you call "proof" is your way of thinking, which has tons of holes in it.

Give me some examples, time intervals in which you think it could have docked using this given one. Of course, to you its not real just like most theories of yours.

Originally posted by Laxpla

Spaceflightnow is a great website. Lots of information there. Unfortunately, you can use it to bolster whatever side you want....if you ignore common sense, reason and logic that is.

Ignoring common sense, reason and logic. Its common sense, that the space shuttle docks with a SSS? With reason and logic unknown? How am I ignoring these "critical" aspects? Give me a example?

In your fervor to nail JL you must have missed my intentions, lol. When I mean ignoring common sense, reason and logic I am saying that ignoring such things, in the face of overwhelming data, is what convinces the ignorant of outlandish conspiracy theories such as a secret space station.

Take a look at my profile and click on "posts". You'll find out real quick which camp I'm in.

Thank You for your response Laxpla & buddhasystem, its nice to hear what you guys think for a change.

You see, you guys are so busy attacking and ridiculing John Lear and Zorgon that we don't get to a chance to hear what you guys really think. Now both of you made some good points but I would not consider them the best arguments.

Would it be possible if you guys could stick to this kind of communication for now on, it would make for a much better discussion.

Originally posted by johnlear
It is my opinion that the technology base available to the NAZA/DoD/Military Industrial Complex is at least 50 years ahead of any publically released technology.

So our capabilities are probably beyond imagination.

I wonder how many know the ISS has electromagnetic shielding? Something to do with all that plasma energy it 'collects' while zipping through the ionosphere..

Seems they were having troubles with shuttle docking when the potential was different between the two...

Talk about ZZZAAPPPP

Yeah yeah I know Prove it! I will dig out that PDF later... got a couple here somewhere... one that talks about the shielding we had in 1965 to keep that darn radiation from pestering the Astronauts..

I just can't figure out why they wouldn't tell us about that? I see no advantage to hiding that

Originally posted by Laxpla

Also, what faults seem to be in this timeline?

10/24/07 Wed 07:38 AM 00 20 00 Spacesuit checkout preps
10/24/07 Wed 07:38 AM 00 20 00 SAFER checkout
10/25/07 Thu 01:08 AM 01 13 30 ISS crew wakeup
10/25/07 Thu 01:38 AM 01 14 00 STS crew wakeup

10/24/07 Wed 07:38 AM 00 20 00 SAFER checkout

Missing a few hours

10/25/07 Thu 01:08 AM 01 13 30 ISS crew wakeup

As John pointed out... seems your missing some data. or trying to trick some people Bad Form

Just a novice question, I was wondering what time zone are they adhering to. There is no time zone in space, so I am assuming that the time is kept by where they are launching on earth or by mission control?

Also does the fact that the earth is spinning much faster beneath them while in orbit affect their time at all? Would this not give them more time technically?

[edit on 11/14/07 by housegroove23]

Originally posted by housegroove23
Also does the fact that the earth is spinning much faster beneath them while in orbit affect their time at all? Would this not give them more time technically?

Don't think so but it must make them whoosy... either that or all those checks are really tiring I mean after only 5 1/2 hours into space and they need to take a 7 hour nap? Man if I did that I would lose my job

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by housegroove23
Also does the fact that the earth is spinning much faster beneath them while in orbit affect their time at all? Would this not give them more time technically?

Don't think so but it must make them whoosy... either that or all those checks are really tiring I mean after only 5 1/2 hours into space and they need to take a 7 hour nap? Man if I did that I would lose my job

Um...Zorgon...may I interrupt here and answer grooves' question?

groove, the Earth is not spinning faster beneath them. They are orbiting around the Earth. At 200 or so miles up, the orbital period is about 90 minutes (someone correct me, I'm just estimating).

For Zorgon...you're asking us if 5:30 into the flight they are tired? Do you think they woke up at Canaveral, climbed aboard, and launched in a few minutes? !?!?

Zorgon, have you never watched a launch? Do you know what they go through before even getting to walk and 'wave' at the press as they board the bus to the Pad, then ride up the gantry elevator, then go thru all of the checklists while they lay on their backs during the countdown??

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say here?

OK...calming down...peace all.