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Proof that the pentagon didn't get hit by a boeing 757

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posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
There was no reason to rebuild this plane. They rebuild them in an attempt to figure out what caused them to crash. They KNOW why this one crashed.


That is really taking a leap of faith, since the only evidence suggests it wasn't a 757.

The few hundred pounds of remaing aircraft was quickly scooped up and destroyed or taken to secret location.

A serious investigation, or any at all, did not take place...that is a fact.




posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by fm258
That is really taking a leap of faith, since the only evidence suggests it wasn't a 757.


What only evidence suggests it wasn't a 757?



posted on Jun, 19 2006 @ 12:53 PM
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What only evidence suggests it wasn't a 757?


Where are the rest of the pices from the airplane?



posted on Jun, 20 2006 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by pepsi78
Where are the rest of the pices from the airplane?

Where are ANY pieces of than not-757 thingie? While on published pictures are SOME pieces of 757 (that doesn't mean there weren't more - just that rest of photos wasn't published), I have yet to see any evidence it was something else. The claim was taht the only evidence available suggests it wasn'a B757 so I'm asking for it.



posted on Jun, 20 2006 @ 02:41 AM
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Well the reports I read say that the plane supposedly struck the lawn first then the building, yet the picture shows no scar in the lawn... seems to me a plane that big would leave a little sctratch on the grass



posted on Jun, 20 2006 @ 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
There was no reason to rebuild this plane. They rebuild them in an attempt to figure out what caused them to crash. They KNOW why this one crashed.


Of course they know why...



the real question is this case is not why or how but who??

Who really crashed the plane into the pentagon? and in fact a less than routine investigation of the crash site helps in the coverup of the real neo-cons behind this 'occult sacrifice.'



posted on Jun, 20 2006 @ 07:00 AM
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Where are ANY pieces of than not-757 thingie? While on published pictures are SOME pieces of 757 (that doesn't mean there weren't more - just that rest of photos wasn't published), I have yet to see any evidence it was something else. The claim was taht the only evidence available suggests it wasn'a B757 so I'm asking for it.

No, alot of pictures were published, wide area pictures with the whole site, inside where it hit around the hole, and none of them show consistant pices of the airplane

[edit on 20-6-2006 by pepsi78]



posted on Jun, 20 2006 @ 12:33 PM
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PSSSSTTTT don't tell anyone, but I have a source that says the wreakage they did find were pieces of another plane thrown into the debris when they realized the photos didn't show any plane


I think I will go to Canada for a while now.....



posted on Jun, 21 2006 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by Zaphod58
There was no reason to rebuild this plane. They rebuild them in an attempt to figure out what caused them to crash. They KNOW why this one crashed.


But it is still a crime scene and an aircfraft crash site. Normal protocal should still be followed no matter what people think happened.

And there are still too many questions as to what the aircraft was. The debris field is not consistant with a large airliner. The pics of parts have no source of when or where they were taken.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 03:40 PM
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80 cameras shot the impact, do you think they are shy to release them not to shock the families... hmmmm. god som ppl on ats are retard.

then why the plane didnt hit Rummy's office insted of hitting the only reinforce spot on the pentagon, can u tell me why it did the 360 turn just not to hurt mr Rumsfeld?

And how an airliner went unotice on the radar, its basicly one of the 1st case a boieng is lost by the FAA , how weird, it was on 9/11.

Try to play flight simulator take a boeing or a learjet and try to hit the pentagon w/t touching the ground and at a considerable speed and if you want even more challenge try to approach land side and then turn to hit sea side like the actual hit was made.. goodluck and its a game try this in real life now.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 04:35 PM
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How do you know 80 cameras shot the impact? There were 80 cameras there, but how many were at an angle to even SEE the plane, let alone impact. Most cameras are set to watch a certain area along the building, BELOW them. They'd be looking down at sidewalks or roads under them.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 07:29 PM
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you right i use the wrong term by impact, i should have said glimpse. but my point is how the most secure building in america is secure only by a 2 frame per sec cam..? This is hard to imagine. I d like to see the sheraton footage for sure tho



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 07:32 PM
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No, they really do have hundreds of cameras there. But most of them aren't at the right angle to see anything. That's not their purpose, to look out and look for threats approaching from air. They're supposed to watch down, and along the building.



posted on Jul, 3 2006 @ 10:21 PM
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Yep, Im sure that Sheraton is going to set up cameras to watch the Pentagon...instead of providing security for its parking lot and entrances. I mean dont ALL businesses set up security cameras to watch OTHER buildings?


Good grief, why does everybody assume that every security camera in the neighborhood was trained on the Pentagon? Not to mention, 99% of the information about the "security" cameras at the businesses around the Pentagon is a load of horse hockey. "The FBI took the tapes from CITGO as evidence....oooooh" and when they didnt find any useful evidence, the tapes were discarded.



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 09:38 AM
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I am continualy amazed at the debate here on this site. The subject of 911 is treated exactly like the American political system. The patrons of this site are divided, and there will probably never be a real acceptable answer to what happened. That is unless those that post items give their view, and that view being contradicted in a professional manner. The end result will be that there are enough holes in the official strory to let everyone agree that there is something wrong with the 911 incident.

The pentagon strike does seem to be strange considering the size of the plane that was suppose to impact it. When one looks at the films made after the strike,prior to the wall collapsing it is evident that the hole is small. It is also clear that the fire damage was minimal. There are no large pieces of the plane, no reported wake from the low approach across the freeway, and no really clear video of the plane strike.

Wheter one believes the government was involved or not, there are enough questions about this to assume the offical story is not accurate.

I believe we will continue to have this endless debate on the causes of the pentagon strike, because there is no really large compulation of evidence to prove either theory.

I choose to beleive that this was not 100% inflicted on us by the arabs. My ignorant reasoning shall not be persuaded to change by those that have the appearance of superior intellect or political power.

Common sense should prevail. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. Even if great people say it is a eagle, it is still a duck. 911 is not what we have been told it is, we will never know unless by chance we agree as one that the truth presented was inaccurate, and we unite as one and force the truth to be told.

This has very little chance of happening, most people dont have time to fight for the truth, they are to busy just trying to get by in life.

[edit on 4-7-2006 by Wolfpack 51]



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 09:45 AM
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Sorry but Ive got a bit of catchin up to do on this thread but can I just ask - If the 757 didnt hit the pentagon then where is it?

Just say a missile did hit the pentagon, then where are all the people that were on the pentagon hitting plane?



posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 09:56 AM
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posted on Jul, 4 2006 @ 05:14 PM
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Zenem,

That is exactly the kind of question that there is no answer to.

But if after you review the pictures and any coverage of the strike right after it happened and you come to the conclusion that a 757 did not hit the pentgone, then you can also sit and be amazed that we have been fooled and are unable to do anything about it.



posted on Jul, 5 2006 @ 07:57 AM
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Common sense should prevail. If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck. Even if great people say it is a eagle, it is still a duck. 911 is not what we have been told it is, we will never know unless by chance we agree as one that the truth presented was inaccurate, and we unite as one and force the truth to be told.

This has very little chance of happening, most people dont have time to fight for the truth, they are to busy just trying to get by in life.

[edit on 4-7-2006 by Wolfpack 51]


Looks like a duck....

Initial impact hole was measured around 14 feet, which is just a tad larger than the diameter of a 757. Impact damage to the facade of the Pentagon from the wings and tail, is close to the span of a 757. Wreckage found in the Pentagon, identified by investigators and airline employees as belonging to an American Airlines 757. Bodies of the passengers witnessned to have boarded American Airlines Flight 77 recovered from the Pentagon.

Quacks like a duck....

Witnesses heard (and saw) an American Airlines jet either flying extremely low in the direction of, or slamming into, the Pentagon.


Gee must be a duck....

American Airlines, Flight 77, a Boeing 757 slammed into the Pentagon Sept. 11, 2001.



posted on Jul, 5 2006 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Milk
You gotta remember that most of the plane is made out of aluminum .020 to .040 (many areas are .032) inches thick... This stuff tears into little pieces like tinfoil at high speeds... it would dicintigrate on impact... Where were the pieces of the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center? Granted, they were probably flying much faster, and with more fuel, but it is still VERY likely that most of the plane would just dicintigrate...


Actually this plane is made mostly of steel and titanium, the kerosene in the plane did not have enough fuild to or enough temperture to disintergrate the entire plane in one strike.



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