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Ask.com Has A Corporate Slant Just Like Fox News. Proof!!

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posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 01:17 AM
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Ok here we go, first lets look at who the CEO of ask.com parent company is.
Barry Diller (born February 2, 1942 in San Francisco, California) is an American media executive responsible for the creation of Fox Broadcasting Company.
here are links to source that info.

about.ask.com...
www.iac.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Now I will offer the following links to a search on "Code Pink"
First 2 pages entries on Ask.com 11 were negative, and first one was subliminally negative referring to Code Pink "Sicko" movie review.

Google 1 negative.

So I checked the movie "Sicko" for another example
Google first 2 sites were Michel Moore site, and Sicko-themovie.com a Micheal Moore site also.

Ask.com entry 38 page 4 was Micheal Moore site.

Also both searches for Ask.com had a FOX news hit on first page.

Here are the screen shots of first 2 pages of entries for code pink side by side.

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i181.photobucket.com...

If anyone believes this not to be proof, please wait till a few more searches are compared before changing title.

Could anyone with a few extra minutes pick a search term, any organization or event, and see if there is a slant. We should also email each organization with the results as we find them.

The Internet is being slanted like the TV, through the search engines, get the word out, let people know to start searching deeper then page 1 !!!!

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[edit on 21-10-2007 by Redge777]



posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 05:53 PM
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Good Afternnoon,

The simpliest answer to your question is different search engine, different technology. Ask.com uses Teoma and soon to be Edison Google uses a technology called PageRank


On top of having two separate technologies, we also have search engine optimization SEO, also refer to Google Bombing Also when performing searches on the internet it's helpful to makes use of the quotes. When you performed your CODE PINK search, Ask.com look at each word individually. Try that same search again using quotations.

If I where running a buisness, I would want to make damn sure my site always comes as close as possible to the top of page one. Nobody will find you on page 8.



posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 06:23 PM
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as companies buy search engines and web services they will begin to implement whatever they want in to them censoring anything or just burying pages. google is alright still you have to dig to get good information on things, but this is a well known thing when researching always use more then three sources. but i am in total agreement with you bias is visible in all aspects of media. but, ATS is becoming a major player in most research i do many differing opinions theres always some one to catch something you missed or didn't think about. i enjoy reading your posts you put a lot of effort into things. i didn't know that ask.com who i suspected of having politically motivated bias anyway was owned by a founder of the fox company but this makes things clearer.



posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 06:40 PM
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A simple answer like it is the formula they use, would not explain a bias. Although two examples is to small of a field to draw conclusions, I ask others to try a few and see if this holds up.

I got the same results with and without quotes. although I understand how quoting works in engines.



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posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 06:58 PM
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Cant some of these websites pay services to ensure their site is listed at the top?

I know the few websites I have run (blogs, message boards etc) I am always getting offers to make sure my site is listed first.

So *maybe* the "anti" Code Pink sites are paying $$$$ to ensure their sites are the first that come up during a search?


For example: www.wpromote.com...

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posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 10:06 PM
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Wpromote and various services are just over priced SEO specialist, that try to captialize on the naive internet publisher. You're better off finding at local specialist and by submitting your url's (for FREE) by following these links for example.

Google
Yahoo
MSN Live Search
ASK

Reistering with a "Pay Per Click" account with the various engines, will result in faster indexing.



posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 10:17 PM
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Well my sample is to small to really be sure of any conclusions, but the first entry having Sicko in it leans me to infer, without a proper sample, that things are being managed for political effect, not financial motive. Although political effect is a financial motive in itself, this is not a manifestation of random market forces.

Also Fox news was on first page of both ask.com tests. Do they pay for this? maybe, but the CEO link between Ask and Fox seems to be a better indicator.

Either way, if paying for page ranking is done, it should be shown by the link being listed as an advertisement, instead of giving a false impression of the importance of the link.

I have heard the search engine starts with set values for certain pages, then divides those values as it counts links on the pages as it crawls. To stack a search engine with a slant, all you have to do is chose your base pages from a set that supports a belief, then the ones they link to are rated higher.

Someone needs to make a free source google with the sole purpose of openness with no slant, anyone can review any part of the algorithm. Then they can make money off avertisements, and traffic from credibility.

Click a page and you can see starting weight pages, and total values that gave the site its ranking, broken down by linking sites to detect grouping to slant results.

The crawling could be done like the SETI project, distributed to volunteers with spare bandwidth and processor time, and every block tripple distributed to different users to avoid anyone tampering.

Wow how about a peer to peer google? Anyone think how that could be done?

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posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 11:02 PM
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Happy Reading



Anatomy Of A Search Engine



posted on Oct, 21 2007 @ 11:54 PM
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Thanks for the article,

With only a little thought I can see that a distributed system would take millions of users to come close to Google's power, and would still require millions in storage and processing.

The Initial assigned Page Rank was the method I was speaking of when commenting that this could slant sources. The article speaks of giving higher value to lets say links from yahoo. What if an engine gave higher value to links from fox news.




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