possibly.. i personaly am looking forward to this date. the dawn of a new level of existance. exciting! (considering what we are today)

There was a thread regarding 2012 and they Mayan Calendar in which a poster made a comment that I couldn't agree with more.

He/she stated that just because the Mayan Calendar ends in 2012, doesn't mean that the world is ending then or that anything will happen then. Perhaps the calendar's creators felt that they didn't need to go farther with it.

Our calendar ends December 31 every year but, there's no one freaking out about that because we understand that it's just the end date for our calendar and not the world.

My money is on absolutely NOTHING happening on Dec. 12th, 2012. Just like how nothing happened on every other supposed end-date in human history.

I'm looking forward to December 21 2012 because it will be four days to Christmas.

Yep, when the current cycle of the Mayan calendar ends-the next one begins. Its the way they set it up. It has no meaning outside of that - unless you think the world began when the present cycle started?

Sheeesh and double LOL

@Monger: The problem is your money is not anything worth anymore when we go from 3D to 4D in 2012

Originally posted by zephyrs
Our calendar ends December 31 every year but, there's no one freaking out about that because we understand that it's just the end date for our calendar and not the world.

Aye but we shoot off ground to air artillery to keep the aliens away on the 31st.

Or something.

First and foremost, let's consider the reality that nothing out of the ordinary is going to happen on December 21, 2012. Don't worry, i'll tell you why.

The Mayans were advanced for their time. The Mayans designed their calendar around the phases of the Moon for agriculture purposes. It just so happens that the Moon follows the same fundamental mathematical path as many cosmic bodies. The Mayans did not have some deep understanding of the stars. They learned a lot based on their observations, but had no way of knowing anything that couldn't be witnessed and measured by the naked eye.

The Mayan Long Count Calendar is segmented, separated into larger and larger chunks of time. The final segment of this calendar concludes on December 21, 2012. It's not strange that this is the winter solstice, because since it was based on Moon phases, the end should begin on the solstice. It just makes logical sense.

When this final segments concludes, what happens? The calendar starts again at the beginning. Nothing magical occurs, and nothing special, since, at the end of the day, a calendar is nothing but a human invention.

Even so, the idea of groups of people thinking positive thoughts to ward off an impending doom is interesting and could be applied in other situations as well. Research has shown that consciousness interacts with physical reality in small traces. If droves of people meditated simultaneously on a single event or purpose, i believe it's entirely possible that we could change an event.

I think of 'thought-induced Cognitive Change' as possible, to an extent.

Recently wasn't there a collective happening that went on, where this was tried out with people locally(In California?) that promoted this to others across the world?

Well, it could but it won't. I mean there are about 100,000 people on ATS. Not many people even know what the Mayan calender is, not many know it is coming to an end. People are more fearing wars, and the stock market.
Anything could be a possibility.

Originally posted by dreamingawake
I think of 'thought-induced Cognitive Change' as possible, to an extent.

Recently wasn't there a collective happening that went on, where this was tried out with people locally(In California?) that promoted this to others across the world?

I'm certain it works but in this case it appears to be a negative reinforcement considering the growing collective hysteria related to this 2012 thing. All based on stone carvings and attempts to find correlations that most likely don't exist. Throw in a bunch of fantatic would-be prophets and a throng of followers and you have the recipe for trouble along the lines of Jonestown, Waco and that group that decided to catch a ride on the spaceship hiding behind the comet some years back

I say live your life as if you never heard all this conjecture and treasure every day. The path will be clearer once you get to it

Originally posted by Terrapop
@Monger: The problem is your money is not anything worth anymore when we go from 3D to 4D in 2012

Haha, true enough!

Not enough people in the world actually know about the Mayan calender and its end date for the collective consciousness to actually be affected.

If everyone in the world was told that 2012 is the year that the Mayan calender ends, along with substantial information on what that means, then yes I do think something affected by mankind would take place.

As for what will or will not take place on 2012, who knows. Chances are nothing.

Does anyone have a link to any study that was done on this? I'm interested in see'ing how many people was used in the study and if it made any changes.

Thanks

We are already seeing evidence of '2012' groups forming and if the more radical of these form heavily armed enclaves to exclude outsiders there will definitely be trouble but only in the form of localised skirmishes with authorities with potentially tragic outcomes. For the majority of earth's people the media coverage of these events would be their introduction to the '2012' thing but it's not likely to sweep up hordes of new followers on a global scale.

Originally posted by Terrapop
@Monger: The problem is your money is not anything worth anymore when we go from 3D to 4D in 2012

That's why I would gladly take your money now. It'll be worthless in a few years so why not give it to me now to avoid the rush

It will most probably be a non evidence like 2k. If anything happens that day it won't be associated with the Mayans-who probably won't even notice.

The really bad part is that for five more years we'll have to listen to escalating nonsense on this subject!

Originally posted by Hanslune
The really bad part is that for five more years we'll have to listen to escalating nonsense on this subject!

Yep, that is my point exactly. The next 5 years the fears are only going to escalate and could produce highten fear in people.

Please correct me if I am wrong but our brains are made up of electrical charges running through them, right? I'm not a doctor so I could be wrong with this or maybe the wording of this. Anyhow this planet has a magnetical field so wouldn't that effect the electrical field if alot of people where hyped up about something?

I thought I read somewhere that something happend on 911 after the attack of the USA and some people thought it was because of the way people where scared and upset... Does anyone remember hearing anything like that?