Originally posted by Jazzerman
1. Small amounts of Ethylmercury in human infants can be comparable to adults with the same levels related to age. In fact, the consumption of fish
and shellfish by a pregnant mother pose a much higher risk as the woman is consuming organic mercury in the form of Methylmercury. This type of
mercury does bioaccumulate as the actions of bacteria on the sea floor convert the inorganic mercury into its more potent form. When a mother
consumes the fish tissue containing Methylmercury the rates of exposure are quite higher than they would ever be with exposure to vaccine
Ethylmercury. In fact, some recent studies I am aware of show that the the body's own ability to detoxify itself of Ethylmercury (even in infancy)
is 5.8 times greater than the rate at which organic Methylmercury is able to be disposed of. Even more staggering is the fact that the half-life of
inorganic Ethylmercury exposure is only 6 days as compared to the 19 day half-life of Methylmercury.
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Oh dear, defending the practice, aren't we?
the comparison with fish has been brought up several tiimes already, let me start with a rebuttal t your claims, which are more likelay than not based
on measuring serum Hg compound levels, totally ignoring the effects on health which are
NOT just dose or half-life dependant.
Source
Both ethyl mercury and Hg2+ are very neuro toxic
compounds. However, ethyl mercury is more rapidly partitioned into the
hydrophobic (fatty) tissues of the central nervous system and is a
more potent neuro toxin than Hg2+ based on this "partitioning factor".
It is this partitioning factor that makes organic mercurials such as
dimethyl mercury so neuro toxically lethal (this is the compound that
caused the death of a Dartmouth University chemistry professor after
she was exposed to a drop or two on her gloved hand). The concern with
organic mercurials, such as thimerosal, is that such compounds can be
perceived as "pro toxicants" just as certain pharmaceuticals can be
classified as "pro drugs". This means that the original compound, e.g.
thimerosal, is less reactive giving the compound time to partition
into certain areas of the body before it breaks down releasing the
ethyl mercury and then further releasing Hg2+. However, while
attaching ethyl mercury to thiolsalicylate makes the ethyl mercury
less reactive it most likely allows increased partitioning into the
central nervous system before the ethyl mercury is released and
thereby, increases the neuro toxicity per unit ethyl mercury involved.
Considerable caution must be taken when stating what is the "toxic
level" of mercury and any mercury containing compound.
don't get me wrong lower half life is preferrable
all else being equal.
now on to fish, posted quite a while ago and used for reference in many threads already in the Medical Issues forum.
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www.generationrescue.org...
The mercury received in a vaccine is no greater than in a can of tuna. Eating a can of tuna has certainly never caused autism.
This myth has received a lot of publicity because it offers an analogy anyone can understand and makes the mercury-autism connection appear trivial.
We can start by comparing a 200-pound male adult consuming tuna with the infant who receives a single vaccine on their first day of birth (since
day-old infants don't eat tuna). On the first day of birth an infant receives the Hep B vaccine with about 25 micrograms of ethlymercury - this
does approximate the 30 micrograms of methlymercury in an average can of tuna. Since the average infant weighs about 7 pounds, the weight equivalent
number of cans of tuna for an adult would be 28 cans. (The adult male weighs 28x more than the infant.)
If you take those 28 cans of tuna and distill it down to mercury content, you would have 840 micrograms of mercury (30 micrograms per can). Keep
in mind that the stomach successfully absorbs and excretes about 90% of any mercury ingested through food, leaving only about 10% of the mercury to be
absorbed into the bloodstream. Since the mercury in vaccines is injected directly into the bloodstream where 100% of it can be absorbed by the organs,
you would need an additional 252 cans of tuna to get the equivalent amount of mercury into the bloodstream for a total of 280 cans of tuna and 8,400
micrograms of methlymercury.
Also, remember that a developing brain is far more sensitive to toxins than an adult brain. Current estimates say mercury is 5-10x more toxic for
a developing brain. We'll use the low end of that range, so multiply the 280 cans of tuna by 5 and you get 1,400 cans of tuna.
So, receiving the Hep B vaccine with Thimerosal on the first day of birth is the equivalent of a 200-pound adult male consuming 1,400 cans of tuna in
a single day. One final adjustment: the adult male in the analogy needs to have no capacity to excrete mercury. As Boyd Haley, Ph.D. notes, "it is
very well known that infants do not produce significant levels of bile or have adult renal capacity for several months after birth. Bilary transport
is the major biochemical route by which mercury is removed from the body, and infants cannot do this very well."
So, a 200-pound male who consumes 1,400 cans of tuna in a single day and has their ability to excrete mercury severely diminished is the same as a
day-old infant receiving the Hep B vaccine. Now the analogy is fair.
So, weak attempts at defending TM use are nothing new, i still vividly remember bsl4doc claiming that one needed a 'gluthathione deficiency' in
order to be harmed by vaccines... guess what? a lack of adequate cystein supply or other factors now amount to a death sentence or worse??
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key snippet (note capitalisation!)
Originally posted by bsl4doc
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They key is that the glutathione deficiency pointed out in your study is GENETIC, not caused by vaccinations. This deficiency makes them more prone
to heavy metal poisoning. This means the direct cause of autism may be glutathione deficiency.
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such are the opinions from people in the medical field. if someone has a deficiency, it's got to be GENETIC and people with GENETIC err, aberrations
deserve getting a kick in the head in the form of organic mercury, right?!?
Dear Readers, you should always remember and fully consider where EUGENICS originally surfaced, developed and finally flourished - apparently to this
day.
It was the Medical Establishment which invented, refined and finally used it, once politics had discovered its usefulness in the 20th' century's
nefarious schemes (most notably Psychiatry).
there is every reason to put two and two together, that the killing and maiming of people not adhering to arbitrary standards (must survive so and so
many mg of organic mercury) is condoned, even under false premise, because f-ex. a shortage of essential amino acids does lead to deficiencies. poor
nutrition is of course not inheritable, but facts never bothered closet eugenicists anyway.
www.abovetopsecret.com... the underlying issue is motivation!
PS: considering what i've seen over the time on this forum and elsewhere i can understand if people freak out and no longer believe anything to the
point of lunacy.
from my experience,most all 'professionals' are so smug, you can tell them you don't drink alcohol ever, but they know better of course, just by
peeking at your liver test results.... never bothering with researching the liquor addict next door whose peripheral nerves are dying off due to
constant intoxication, while his liver remains in better than normal shape. never let facts get in the way of dogma, never believe the patient (or
customer in a non medical setting), tar them with your broadest brush, affirmations and evidence to the contrary be damned.
There's a reason fewer and fewer trust anyone and it's not just in their heads. denigrate people as much as you wish, but there will come a time
when litterally everyone will have to be branded 'misinformed' or 'paranoid' or just stupid and negligent, probably threatening 'society as a
whole' (gotta love that, eh?) by their
non-compliance or better yet
disobedience.
as you can guess, it's getting clearer and clearer who's threatenng what and how and you can't fool everyone forever!
[edit on 20.10.2007 by Long Lance]
