Originally posted by 27jd

Originally posted by RogerT
If a doctor makes a mistake, you may get a free ride to the afterlife.

Along with an airline pilot, a cab driver, etc. You can post statistics about how many have been "killed" by doctors, but is there even a way to keep any kind of records on how many have been saved? I think not. Who knows how many would die of common diseases such as asthma, diabetes, etc. without maintenance meds. It's not an argument that can proved one way or the other.

Well that's of course one of the most common rebuttals. Not a very good analogy though to use pilot and cab driver. Funny I thought of the exact same two, but think it through and there are pretty fundamental differences.

Diabetes and asthma are both completely curable by natural means. There is no need to continue pumping expensive and toxic materials into your body.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message people. I'd be happy to share information about this if you'd like to U2U me, but please don't just ask out of curiosity, as the answer is not a one liner and I do have a life outside this forum.

Look, let's make one thing clear right now, if I get hit by a bus and one arm is lying at the other side of the street, I want a trained professional to sew it back on, and I wouldn't refuse some kind of aneasthetic either, unless there's a highly skilled acupuncturist on hand.

I'm talking about drugs.

Personally, I don't go with the 'poison yourself back to health' idea. If you are healthy, and you take drugs, you'll get sick.

There's always a better way.

Unfortunately, most of the alternative healthers haven't got a clue either, and are just as dangerous as the doctors. At least the doctors are more honest about it.

sorry, this is sidetracking the OP. be happy to start a new thread if you want to take this one further

Originally posted by RogerT
Diabetes and asthma are both completely curable by natural means. There is no need to continue pumping expensive and toxic materials into your body.

I'm interested in what you mean by asthma being curable, so yes, any info you have on that please U2U when you have the time. No rush, I know how it is to have a life outside the internet.

Originally posted by RogerT


Diabetes and asthma are both completely curable by natural means. There is no need to continue pumping expensive and toxic materials into your body.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message people. I'd be happy to share information about this if you'd like to U2U me, but please don't just ask out of curiosity, as the answer is not a one liner and I do have a life outside this forum.

well, i'm asking but i would not like it in a u2u. i'd like you to post that information here on the open forum where everyone can see.
that way, we can get more opinions...
i would veyr much like to know how you are so sure that diabetes can be cured...

lemme guess, some alternative medicine right???
all you need to do is take some ginko and eat a banana and the diabetes will be gone.


please post whatever you have.....take your time. this thread will be here.

I've said this a few times but I'll say it again. My mom has been a family doctor for 25 years, and she has stated several times that since 2000 the college of medicine here in Canada has been furiously pushing new vaccines. She has also said that the average trial period for a vaccine's testing has been shortened by half, and now she is extremely wary about giving vaccines to her patients. Especially Gardisil, which had a testing period of LESS THAN A YEAR!! Vaccines used to have several year periods for testing.
On top of all of that, she has told me that when she asks about thimerosol, the mercury based preservative, at her drug rep meetings, most doctors think that it was taken out years ago. The truth is a law was passed requiring vaccine manufacturers to start making non-thimerosol vaccines available. However since nobody heard about this law, the dangers of thimerosol, or that they even had access to this new vaccine, they were never used and companies like Merck stopped making them.
I feel very strongly that these vaccines are poison.

Originally posted by Boondock78
lemme guess, some alternative medicine right???
all you need to do is take some ginko and eat a banana and the diabetes will be gone.

Well if I suggest there is an alternative to using allopathic meds, then I suppose that's a pretty dumb question.

Or was that part of the sarcasm that followed the question.

You see, that's why I won't waste my time posting such info here. Naturally healing diabetes takes courage, personal responsibility, an open mind and quite a bit more than ginko and a banana. Crap like that isn't gonna cut it.

I'm surprised to see that verbal vomit coming from you Boondock, I always thought you had a very gentle and contributive but incisive posting style.

Originally posted by Boondock78
diabetes can be cured. there was a huge thread in teh skunk works about this where people were making the same claims, even with cancer and such.
buy this book off amazon by joe blow that tells you how to cure all this stuff by eating right....it's all right there and so easy

my stepdad has cml....there ain't no way he is coming off the gleevac for some damn alternative treatment like a root or a carrot

bwuahahahha

One of the biggest problems with natural healing is the vast majority of those proclaiming to be natural healers who know jack # about healing.

I would never consider my knowledge in the league of some of the great healers, but over the past couple of dedaces I've learned a bit. What I learned helped me to help friends and family overcome a few conditions that the medics couldn't help with (nor the homeopaths). My mother's breast cancer was one of the conditions.

I wouldn't even begin working with someone with your attitude. You're defeated before you start.

Your sig is interesting, did you right that from personal experience.

Originally posted by RogerT
You see, that's why I won't waste my time posting such info here. Naturally healing diabetes takes courage, personal responsibility, an open mind and quite a bit more than ginko and a banana. Crap like that isn't gonna cut it.

I'm surprised to see that verbal vomit coming from you Boondock, I always thought you had a very gentle and contributive but incisive posting style.

then man up dude and start posting what you got. i say that with sarcasm cause the only time(s) i have debated this has been in skunk works and the usual comments of of a similar nature.

cancer/diabetes/asthma/etc can be cured naturally. buy this guys book.
or, all you need to do is this and that...it is soooo simple.

or, they swear and swear they KNOW FOR A FACT that diabetes can be cured, but how?
lay it out.

why do you only want to do it in pms?

i am not that smart and if you post a lot of stuff in a pm, then i need to pm lombozzo or jazzerman with some of your stuff so they can help me go over it...see, they are professionals. i am a moran that posts on the web.

we are discussing it HERE, so bust out your data...don't you want to spread the knowledge?

sorry about the verbal vomit. this must be the first time you have come across it. i don't mean to offend but i say what is on my mind.
my posting style is very much not gentile, but directly to the point...

sometimes my sarcasm don't come across though

Originally posted by RogerT


One of the biggest problems with natural healing is the vast majority of those proclaiming to be natural healers who know jack # about healing.

I would never consider my knowledge in the league of some of the great healers, but over the past couple of dedaces I've learned a bit. What I learned helped me to help friends and family overcome a few conditions that the medics couldn't help with (nor the homeopaths). My mother's breast cancer was one of the conditions.

I wouldn't even begin working with someone with your attitude. You're defeated before you start.

Your sig is interesting, did you right that from personal experience.

see, this post goes along those same types in skunk works...
you don't proclaim a yourself a 'great' healer, but you do say you have 20 or so years of learning..
you helped someone overcome breast cancer...

see, this is a very fantastic claim in my opinion...i would very much like to know how.
but, you're not gonna work with me cause i laugh and i am sarcastic? thats nice.
believe me, if you showed me anything that i thought was legit proof, my mind would open right on up.
till then, i chalk it into the L O L category.

nothing against you, just the claims.

i'm thinking if you got this knowledge and you have cured at least one person of something as serious as breast cancer, that would be super cool to share.

my aunt has breast cancer and so does my brother in laws fiance' so yeah, i'd like to hear what you got.

i don't know why it must be in a pm though.

toss it out here so the pro's can smack it down or concur with it..

if i need to be telling my bro to give his fiance' kiwi and almonds instead of her usual treatments, i will. but i need to see something other than claims...

sp watchoo got for me?

the sig
those are frank zappa quotes that tend to very much agree with.

Originally posted by Boondock78
believe me, if you showed me anything that i thought was legit proof, my mind would open right on up.
till then, i chalk it into the L O L category.

nothing against you, just the claims.

i'm thinking if you got this knowledge and you have cured at least one person of something as serious as breast cancer, that would be super cool to share.

my aunt has breast cancer and so does my brother in laws fiance' so yeah, i'd like to hear what you got.

i don't know why it must be in a pm though.

toss it out here so the pro's can smack it down or concur with it..

Look, no offense B, but this isn't an appealing invitation for me to invest x hours of my time coaching you through the mental enema you'll need to even get started.

you're looking for data to take to the 'pros'. Who are they? Do these pros have professional success curing incurable diseases naturally? If they did, you wouldn't need any info from me, so I'll guess that they don't, so what possible value can they offer?

Originally posted by RogerT


Then tell him to contact me.

this is the typical response right here.
you got the cure man, but i can't know it cause my attitude is not right...what if i tell him that i know a guy that can cure you cia natural medicine and he has the same attitude as me, but still wants to know?

thats lame man

hows this?
give me a list of things you can cure and if i have one of those things, then you can tell me about that?